Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th May 2007 18:17 UTC, submitted by diegocg
Intel "The Intel 965GM Express Chipset represents the first mobile product that implements fourth generation Intel graphics architecture. Designed to support advanced rendering features in modern graphics APIs, this chipset includes support for programmable vertex, geometry, and fragment shaders. Extending Intel's commitment to work with the X.org and Mesa communities to continuously improve and enhance the drivers, support for this new chipset is provided through the X.org 2.0 Intel driver and the Mesa 6.5.3 releases. These drivers represent significant work by both Intel and the broader open source community."
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Go Intel!
by diegocg on Fri 11th May 2007 18:47 UTC
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2005-07-08

This shows that open source graphic drivers are possible. In fact Intel is in disadvantage in the graphics field, still they don't mind show the code.

ATI, NVIDIA, f--k off. ATI drivers are just crap, nvidia drivers are fast but often unstable. And both have stopped supporting old hardware: I can't use anything but opensource drivers for my ATI 9200 because the propietary ati drivers have stopped supporting it. Not only in Linux, in windows aswell. In fact I only can install Vista by using the crappy and slow VESA driver.

Next time I'm buying Intel. They release open source drivers also for SATA, network cards, wireles...and their CPUs right now are faster and cooler than AMD's - and if AMD release better CPUs, a CPU a bit slower and hotter will be a price I'll be willing to pay to get great opensource drtiver support.

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RE: Go Intel!
by marc on Fri 11th May 2007 20:07 in reply to "Go Intel!"
marc Member since:
2006-07-24

In fact Intel is in disadvantage in the graphics field, still they don't mind show the code.


Actually, based upon recent research that I needed, Intel has a roughly 40% market share in graphics chips.

Compare that to both nVidia and ATI at about 23% each.

I too have become frustrated with nVidia. I have had Dell laptops with nVidia cards running Linux since RH 8.0.

The now lingering (> 6 months) issue of black windows when running Beryl has facilitated an increasing level of frustration on the nVidia forums and elsewhere. This is due to a TurboCache bug in the current generations of drivers from them.

The official word is that 'it is being worked on', but even the recently released beta versions of their Linux drivers were largely to support new cards, not to fix open bugs.

In the mean time, their official resolution is to disable Beryl. Some kind community folks have spent a fair amount of time trying to debug the issue using the various settings in the Beryl manage with some success, but most of the solutions don't seem to work for cards with modest amounts of VRAM (ie. <128 Mb).

nVidia seems to be more focused on supporting Linux on new cards, rather than doing what they need to do to keep existing customers happy.

When time comes to replace my current laptop, if nVidia's attitude and the status of these open issues have not changed, I will be buying a laptop with Intel graphics chips.

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RE[2]: Go Intel!
by butters on Fri 11th May 2007 20:43 in reply to "RE: Go Intel!"
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

The now lingering (> 6 months) issue of black windows when running Beryl has facilitated an increasing level of frustration on the nVidia forums and elsewhere... Some kind community folks have spent a fair amount of time trying to debug the issue using the various settings in the Beryl manage with some success...

FOSS is great at rapidly addressing these kinds of frustrating issues. While enabling the sales of new hardware is on the top of the priority list for nVidia, providing a satisfying experience on existing hardware is the top priority for the community. Imagine if they could work together...

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RE: Go Intel!
by aliquis on Sat 12th May 2007 00:59 in reply to "Go Intel!"
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2005-07-23

"and their CPUs right now are faster and cooler than AMD's - and if AMD release better CPUs, a CPU a bit slower and hotter will be a price I'll be willing to pay to get great opensource drtiver support."

Yeah I hate the closed source cpu drivers...

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RE[2]: Go Intel!
by diegocg on Sat 12th May 2007 13:24 in reply to "RE: Go Intel!"
diegocg Member since:
2005-07-08

"CPU drivers"? What are you talking about?

I was talking about choosing Intel because that's the one way of getting a "Intel system" with an intel SATA/network/graphics/wireless controller.

With AMD CPUs you're stuck with ati or nvidia. Basically, buying Intel is the one way to get a hardware platform with oipen source drivers. Thats was what I was talking about.

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