Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th May 2007 18:17 UTC, submitted by diegocg
Intel "The Intel 965GM Express Chipset represents the first mobile product that implements fourth generation Intel graphics architecture. Designed to support advanced rendering features in modern graphics APIs, this chipset includes support for programmable vertex, geometry, and fragment shaders. Extending Intel's commitment to work with the X.org and Mesa communities to continuously improve and enhance the drivers, support for this new chipset is provided through the X.org 2.0 Intel driver and the Mesa 6.5.3 releases. These drivers represent significant work by both Intel and the broader open source community."
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RE: Go Intel!
by marc on Fri 11th May 2007 20:07 UTC in reply to "Go Intel!"
marc
Member since:
2006-07-24

In fact Intel is in disadvantage in the graphics field, still they don't mind show the code.


Actually, based upon recent research that I needed, Intel has a roughly 40% market share in graphics chips.

Compare that to both nVidia and ATI at about 23% each.

I too have become frustrated with nVidia. I have had Dell laptops with nVidia cards running Linux since RH 8.0.

The now lingering (> 6 months) issue of black windows when running Beryl has facilitated an increasing level of frustration on the nVidia forums and elsewhere. This is due to a TurboCache bug in the current generations of drivers from them.

The official word is that 'it is being worked on', but even the recently released beta versions of their Linux drivers were largely to support new cards, not to fix open bugs.

In the mean time, their official resolution is to disable Beryl. Some kind community folks have spent a fair amount of time trying to debug the issue using the various settings in the Beryl manage with some success, but most of the solutions don't seem to work for cards with modest amounts of VRAM (ie. <128 Mb).

nVidia seems to be more focused on supporting Linux on new cards, rather than doing what they need to do to keep existing customers happy.

When time comes to replace my current laptop, if nVidia's attitude and the status of these open issues have not changed, I will be buying a laptop with Intel graphics chips.

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RE[2]: Go Intel!
by butters on Fri 11th May 2007 20:43 in reply to "RE: Go Intel!"
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2005-07-08

The now lingering (> 6 months) issue of black windows when running Beryl has facilitated an increasing level of frustration on the nVidia forums and elsewhere... Some kind community folks have spent a fair amount of time trying to debug the issue using the various settings in the Beryl manage with some success...

FOSS is great at rapidly addressing these kinds of frustrating issues. While enabling the sales of new hardware is on the top of the priority list for nVidia, providing a satisfying experience on existing hardware is the top priority for the community. Imagine if they could work together...

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RE[3]: Go Intel!
by marc on Fri 11th May 2007 21:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Go Intel!"
marc Member since:
2006-07-24

The problem for nVidia is that part of enabling new sales is to ensure that your existing clients become repeat clients.

If you focus on new sales at the expense of existing clients, eventually there will be no new clients to purchase your products, as prospective purchasers will become disenchanted and look elsewhere.

Of course the fundamental problem for Linux users is that we hold no financial influence when it comes to our marketshare as compared to Windows purchasers.

Thus, we have no fundamental ability to influence nVidia's priorities or their allocation of technical resources in this situation.

So they focus on sales to OEMS to ensure that folks like Dell can sell XPS type systems with high end cards or on the aftermarket for high end cards for gamers who are upgrading existing desktop HW.

When it comes to Linux, they are now focusing on supporting new high end gamer's cards at the expense of supporting the rest of us.

None of which frankly, do I care about.

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