Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 18th May 2007 22:17 UTC
Windows Some of the changes in the upcoming release of Windows Server 2008 are a response to features and performance advantages that have made Linux an attractive option to Microsoft customers. One of these is the fact that Linux has less of a surface area, which led customers to believe that Linux is inherently more secure, Bill Laing, the general manager for Microsoft's Windows Server division, told eWEEK. "Having less surface area does reduce the servicing and the amount of code you have running and exposed, so we have done a lot of work in 2008 to make the system more modular. There are more than 30 components not installed by default, which is a huge change," Laing said. "We also have server core, which doesn't have the GUI, so I would say that is a response to the options people had with Linux that they didn't have with Windows."
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RE[3]: wakeup
by JamesG on Sat 19th May 2007 18:01 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: wakeup"
JamesG
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2007-05-17

Every company tries different tactics and 'copies' competitors in areas where its ideas didn't succeed. It's easy to say a small company with 1 idea is innovative if it lucks out, but any company as big and varied as MS is going to have an equal share of bad ideas, borrowed ideas and good ideas, but be obtuse.

And as far as China and India not using MS because of the US Govt, the US Govt has no legal authority to modify the Windows Source, also windows NT source has been leaked and I have not seen one report of anything that would justify this paranoia, not surprisingly because it is paranoia akin to thinking UFOs visit you, but that's not obvious to most people because OS's are too complicated for most of them. MS being a US company didn't stop Iraq from using it, nor many other US enemies and rivals, so ranting and raving China will be the end of MS is again, obtuse, MS could sell Windows for virtually nothing in China and India if necessary just to get market share and still make more money than they are now which is more than good enough, considering that's more than any other software company.

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RE[4]: wakeup
by Windows Sucks on Sat 19th May 2007 18:48 in reply to "RE[3]: wakeup"
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Ummmm, governments are run by people just like companies are run by people and back door deals are made ALL the time. If you don't believe that then you should try working for the US government some time.

It's just like the US government didn't have the right to modify that $120 million Boeing 767-300ER model Airliner China purchased in June 2000. But they did and the Chinese government found 27 listening devices!

http://taiwansecurity.org/WP/2002/WP-012702.htm

Also is been rumored for YEARS that MS had given the US government keys to their encryption software in Windows. I know in the UK there are even laws in place for this:

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,2123893,00.htm

"According to a law called the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, UK government agencies can demand encryption keys relating to intercepted data communications that are scrambled. Anyone not complying with the request faces a prison sentence of up to two years."

And no this doesn't extend to China proper, I am sure they can pass those keys to their spies. And lord if you don't think they have spies in China, I don't know what planet you been living on. LOL!

Also, yes the source code for PARTS of Windows NT has been leaked for a LONG time. And countries like China have access to some of the Windows source code through MS's shared source agreement! But Windows NT is how old? First version came out in 93. LOL! Come on now. Long old and changed! And all the source didn't hit the streets. That is why you have not seen a hacked, compiled running copy of Windows from that leaked source!

Countries like Iraq were bootleggin MS software so they could run their computers. And or buying what ever is available. I am SURE they didn't have their own computer industry. And I am sure there were trade and sale embargoes on Iraq, just like on Iran etc.

"Every company tries different tactics and 'copies' competitors in areas where its ideas didn't succeed. It's easy to say a small company with 1 idea is innovative if it lucks out, but any company as big and varied as MS is going to have an equal share of bad ideas, borrowed ideas and good ideas, but be obtuse. "

Please name one thing that MS came up with? if you look through the HISTORY of computing besides Windows 95 being extra popular! Name MS's AH HA moment. Apple had it with the Ipod and with the Lisa and the Mac.
MS didn't create IE, MS project, Visio and many, many other things that they just bought or stole.

MS's AH HA moment is when they figured out how to sell the OS they made that copied the Mac OS (For which Apple won a lawsuit over) to bundle with their Office suite (That copied Word Perfect and Quattro Pro and for which Novell won a law suit over) And then give that to businesses and governments for next to nothing, then get them hooked and keep jacking up the prices.

"MS could sell Windows for virtually nothing in China and India if necessary just to get market share and still make more money than they are now which is more than good enough, considering that's more than any other software company."

But MS has not and who knows if they ever will, lower the prices on Windows and Office. No instead of giving you the good product for a lower price, to fight Linux they give you a bootleg, criptled product for the lower price.

If I lived in India or another third world county (As they are called) I would feel like MS doesn't really appreciate us as whole people, since they wont sell me a whole version of Windows or Office at a price I can afford.

You really think that is gonna fly? LOL! Not for long.

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RE[5]: wakeup
by jayson.knight on Sun 20th May 2007 07:14 in reply to "RE[4]: wakeup"
jayson.knight Member since:
2005-07-06

"Please name one thing that MS came up with? if you look through the HISTORY of computing besides Windows 95 being extra popular! Name MS's AH HA moment. Apple had it with the Ipod and with the Lisa and the Mac.
MS didn't create IE, MS project, Visio and many, many other things that they just bought or stole."

Microsoft started as a language company. They wrote the first interpreter for the altair. That's pretty "aha" IMO. From a business standpoint, they've had hundreds of aha moments which, while sometimes unscrupulous, were equally as impressive and smart. The Lisa? By all definition of the word, a huge flop and cost Apple millions of dollars.

"MS's AH HA moment is when they figured out how to sell the OS they made that copied the Mac OS (For which Apple won a lawsuit over)"

Eh? Apple lost that lawsuit, but gained a huge commitment from Microsoft over the next several years.

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