Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2007 17:38 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Google Google announced today the availability of a new open-source browser plug-in, Google Gears, that promises developers the ability to create applications that work within a browser - even without Internet connectivity.
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RE: Java webstart
by openwookie on Thu 31st May 2007 19:02 UTC in reply to "Java webstart"
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2006-04-25

Javascript is a fine language. Using a toolkit like Prototype will solve many of the cross browser issues.

Refried java applets (aka: javafx) doesn't sound like much fun to me.

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RE[2]: Java webstart
by gmlongo on Fri 1st Jun 2007 13:54 in reply to "RE: Java webstart"
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2005-07-07

You obviously do not know much about JavaFX if you think it is "refried java applets".

-G

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RE[3]: Java webstart
by openwookie on Mon 4th Jun 2007 19:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Java webstart"
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2006-04-25


You obviously do not know much about JavaFX if you think it is "refried java applets".


Sure I do. And that's exactly what it is.

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RE[2]: Java webstart
by mheath on Fri 1st Jun 2007 17:09 in reply to "RE: Java webstart"
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2007-04-24

Yes. Javascript is a fine language. It's so easy to debug cross-browser problems. Every web browser has excellent support for Javascript debugging. It's wonderful. Building really large Javascript apps is great too because the dynamic typing never makes you sit back and scratch your head and wonder what you're supposed to pass into a particular function. It's also nice that Javascript separates things up into their own name spaces so you don't have to worry about variable or function naming collisions when you start including third-party Javascript libraries.

</sarcasm>

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RE[3]: Java webstart
by openwookie on Mon 4th Jun 2007 19:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Java webstart"
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2006-04-25

Yes. Javascript is a fine language.

Indeed it is.


It's so easy to debug cross-browser problems. Every web browser has excellent support for Javascript debugging.


I rarely ever have a cross browser javascript problem (in the past I've had issues with certain regular expressions in IE). More likely I'll have a cross browser css problem.


It's wonderful. Building really large Javascript apps is great too because the dynamic typing never makes you sit back and scratch your head and wonder what you're supposed to pass into a particular function.


I'm NOT getting into the whole dynamic typing vs. static typing debate. It's been well covered before, and I certainly have no problems with a dynamically typed language.

Also, if you've never used Firebug, I highly suggest it. It allows you to inspect and interact with javascript objects on a live web page.


It's also nice that Javascript separates things up into their own name spaces so you don't have to worry about variable or function naming collisions when you start including third-party Javascript libraries.


It's not my problem that you are using crappy third party libraries. The ones that I use handle name spaces just fine. You DID read my comment about Prototype, didn't you?

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