Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Jun 2007 15:01 UTC, submitted by AdministratorX
Microsoft In its second such agreement this week, Microsoft has struck a deal under which it will extend amnesty to a company that's using what the software maker claims is patented Microsoft intellectual property embedded in the open source Linux computer operating system. Under a deal with LG Electronics, disclosed late Wednesday, Microsoft will forgo any Linux-related patent claims against the South Korean electronics manufacturer. In return, Microsoft will gain access to certain intellectual property produced by LG.
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Remarkable
by monodeldiablo on Fri 8th Jun 2007 15:14 UTC
monodeldiablo
Member since:
2005-07-06

I just can't believe this is working. Why would any company capitulate to such a dubious claim? Software is the only world in which it's imaginable that the users of some product could be sued for its content. Am I the only person for whom this seems utterly ridiculous?

On the most fundamental levels, this doesn't make any sense. I'm more than a little unnerved by what this suggests about the incompetence of some of the leaders in the IT world.

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RE: Remarkable
by Laurence on Fri 8th Jun 2007 15:22 in reply to "Remarkable"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

I couldn't agree more.
It seems absurd for LG to surrender some of their intellectual property to MS simply because MS make unproven accusations about their patents.

It's completely bonkers. Why don't these businesses stand together? After all - United we stand, devided we fall.

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RE[2]: Remarkable
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 8th Jun 2007 15:23 in reply to "RE: Remarkable"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It seems absurd for LG to surrender some of their intellectual property to MS simply because MS make unproven accusations about their patents.

That's my point. All I can think of is that the patent claim actualy *shock gasp horror* holds any water.

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RE[2]: Remarkable
by korpenkraxar on Fri 8th Jun 2007 15:46 in reply to "RE: Remarkable"
korpenkraxar Member since:
2005-09-10

It seems absurd for LG to surrender some of their intellectual property to MS simply because MS make unproven accusations about their patents.

I guess we have to assume that MS has shown them to LG at least.

I had been thinking of making a poll or bet at some site about which additional Linux distributors after Novell and Xandros the community think is most likely to sign similar deals (Linspire? Mandriva? Mepis?), but by now this is turning too unpredictable. What next? Volvo? The Catholic Church? Antarctica? The little smile on babies' faces?

[Edit: minor typo]

Edited 2007-06-08 15:52

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RE[2]: Remarkable
by sappyvcv on Fri 8th Jun 2007 15:52 in reply to "RE: Remarkable"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

Again, Microsoft is paying LG for access to their intellectual property. They made the CHOICE to agree upon and sign the contract.

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RE[2]: Remarkable
by sbergman27 on Fri 8th Jun 2007 16:16 in reply to "RE: Remarkable"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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Why don't these businesses stand together? After all - United we stand, devided we fall.
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Corporations are whores.

And cooperation to achieve a common goal has always never been their strong suit. It seems like the history of this industry has been one deal after another, with corporations pledging to work together to achieve some goal... but the goal is rarely achieved before they lapse back into their back-stabbing ways and the whole thing falls apart and is forgotten.

That's one of the things that scares Microsoft so much about the GPL. It's been more effective than anything in this industry at getting at least some companies effectively cooperating each other, in at least some areas, in a meaningful and long term way.

It's hard for Microsoft to sell their software as "rocket science" in the presence of examples of how a little cooperation between players can turn "rocket science" into "garden variety".

I'm afraid that it is up to us. Keep a list of those companies who enter into these deals. Do not buy from them and discourage others from doing so. Send those companies a courteous note explaining *what* you are doing and *why* you are doing it. Send a note to your new suppliers informing them of why you are switching to them.

Our wallets and our keyboards are the most effective weapons that we have in this important fight. I only hope that we can wield them effectively and that they are enough.

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RE: Remarkable
by poundsmack on Fri 8th Jun 2007 16:09 in reply to "Remarkable"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

not that i am giving microsoft the benefit of the doubt but, I doubt we know whats going on in the backround of this. microsoft might not have made what pattents avalible publicly. but they did give a number of how many. meaning they probly know(assuming its not all BS). and given that they k know it wouldnt be hard for them to show companies like LG and so on. reasons for not publicaly anouncing all of them could be anywhere from being lazy, or not wanting to start an all out pattent holocaust. That would not go well at all for MS espcialy prior to the EU courts making there decision in september. I am sure a pattent war where MS would be the bad guy sparking from that would hurt them in those respects...

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RE[2]: Remarkable
by monodeldiablo on Fri 8th Jun 2007 16:36 in reply to "RE: Remarkable"
monodeldiablo Member since:
2005-07-06

You're missing my point. Linux is a product that LG uses. Microsoft can no more sue them for using that product than GM can sue me for driving a Toyota, regardless of the number of infringing patents.

It's as if people have abandoned reason purely out of fear. This is the textbook definition of extortion.

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