Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 16th Jun 2007 21:32 UTC, submitted by Oliver
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "There's been a lot of talk on lists and blogs about an exchange between Linus Torvalds, Jonathan Schwartz and Theo de Raadt regarding licensing and documentation. It all started with a 'cynical' message from Linus about Sun's motivation with regard to Open Source. Jonathan Schwartz responded by extending Linus a dinner invitation. What? The romance was briefly interrupted by a message from Theo pointing out the doublespeak."
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RE[5]: tired of this
by Doc Pain on Sun 17th Jun 2007 17:32 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: tired of this"
Doc Pain
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2006-10-08

"What I expect of my PC is:"

Before I comment on your expectations, I'd like to say: Most of them are not related to the OS itself, they are additional software. While OSes like the "real" BSDs do come as an "OS only", PC-BSD comes with many preinstalled software that is targetted at the home user. You surely are not a usual home user, so some of your needs would require you to install precompiled packages (pkg_add) because no PBIs are available.

"- Postgres and MySQL
- Apache and PHP
- Java and Tomcat
- Mozilla (Firefox)"


All available as PBI, except tomcat which is available via ports / packages.

"- MS formats compatibile office"

I'd prefer standard compatible formats. It's MICROS~1's turn to be compatible, not the other way round. Refer to OpenOffice as a good solution (with the tendency for migration towards standard formats (ODF)), if you really need to stick with this old fashioned stuff. :-)

"- Wireless support"

Except the other points mentioned, this is a concern of the OS. Wireless drivers are availabe for FreeBSD and that's why they're available for PC-BSD, too. Be sure to buy hardware that is compatible. Driver support is something the hardware vendor is responsible for, maybe by publishing documentations and specifications of by offering drivers for the particular OS. Refer to FreeBSD's hardware support list in order to find out more.

"- Bluefish / Quanta / Netbeans"

Quanta and Netbeans via PBI, Bluefish via ports / packages.

"- DVD and MP3 player"

Choose what you like: KDE's Kaffeine, [kg]mplayer, xine, xmms, ogle, Amarok... there is no "the media player". The choice is yours here.

"- Sylpheed or Thunderbird"

Sylpheed? Wow, I thought I'm the only one using it! :-) Of course available as PBI. If you use the same storage method (mbox, MH), you can use both of them together.

"That's what I use 99% of the time."

If these are your requirements, PC-BSD definitely is for you. As long as you like KDE, but there's no need to stick with KDE if you don't want, just install WindowMaker, Gnome, Metacity, IceWM etc. as you like.

And if you're familiar with how things work in "real" FreeBSD, you'll find PC-BSD a very good solution, because you can do the "low level stuff" (CLI and config files) and the "high level stuff" (GUI and clickityclick) without any problems.

PS. Looks like both of us are using similar stuff 99% of the time. :-)

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