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by Hiawatha on Wed 20th Jun 2007 21:02 UTC
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The security of a server depends mainly on its administrator, not on it's OS.

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RE: Security
by Supreme Dragon on Wed 20th Jun 2007 21:14 in reply to "Security"
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"The security of a server depends mainly on its administrator, not on it's OS."

Software quality cannot be overlooked, a Windows free server is a more secure server.

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RE[2]: Security
by ThawkTH on Wed 20th Jun 2007 21:38 in reply to "RE: Security"
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Not always. I think it's all about how competent your admin is.

If somebody is a windows guru, they can probably construct a respectable server.

If they have absolutely no *nix experience and slap an OpenBSD box together, enable random services, they might have some issues.

I agree that in their own, BSD's are more secure than Windows boxes - provided the admin knows what they're doing of course!

Edited 2007-06-20 21:40

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RE[2]: Security
by BluenoseJake on Thu 21st Jun 2007 15:43 in reply to "RE: Security"
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I have to disagree with you. A windows 2003 box can be made to be very secure, with only a small amount of effort. Most unneeded services are disabled by default, and the system is setup to require authentication to even view open shares and services. Codewise, Win2k3 is going to need some updates when installing a new box, but what OS that came out 4 years ago doesn't?

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Quite the opposite is true
by galvanash on Wed 20th Jun 2007 21:43 in reply to "Security"
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That's like saying condoms are unnecessary if you know how to pull - never mind, I wont elaborate. You know what I'm getting at.

Point is no matter how good the administrator is, it's the OS that has to deal with a security threat. At some point you have to let in _something_ in order for the server to be of any use at all, and if the code for that particular something has a flaw in it... THAT is what matters in the end.

In other words the OS is VASTLY more important than the administrator. A really good administrator with a shitty OS wont do a damned bit of good...

Edited 2007-06-20 22:01

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RE: Security
by fretinator on Wed 20th Jun 2007 22:10 in reply to "Security"
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I modded you up and wish I could give you a few points. The reason I modded you up is it is obviously people are modding you down because they disagree with you. You comment is very true and important to remember - no OS is secure without a trained administrator at the helm. People, please mod this person up, and others, stop modding people down because you disagree with someone, or they say something that you don't like, or because you get mad. Mod a comment down because:

1. It contain offensive language or personal attacks
2. It is off-topic
3. It contains ads, spam, or an attempt to link to something unrelated

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RE[2]: Security
by Robert Escue on Wed 20th Jun 2007 23:25 in reply to "RE: Security"
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Whoever is modding us down is more than likely the people who think supreme dragon's comments are insightful and can't be bothered to actually engage any of us in a discussion of why we respond the way we do.

I have come to the conclusion that some of the people here are not really interested in meaningful discussion of OS related topics, they are far more interested in modding people they don't like down and posting inflammatory comments. My guess is we are right and somebody is upset about it.

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