Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 24th Jun 2007 13:44 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces Federkiel writes: "People working with Apple computers are used to a very consistent user experience. For a large part this stems from the fact that the Lisa type of GUI does not have the fight between MDI and SDI. The question simply never arises, because the Lisa type of GUI does not offer the choice to create either of both; it's something different all along. I usually think of it as 'MDI on steroids unified with a window manager'. It virtually includes all benefits of a SDI and and the benefits of an MDI." Read on for how I feel about this age-old discussion.
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RE[2]: That's only a part of it
by twenex on Sun 24th Jun 2007 15:19 UTC in reply to "RE: That's only a part of it"
twenex
Member since:
2006-04-21

Ok, you REALLY didn't get it. The interface that is the best for user A is the interface that makes them do tasks in a way that is easiest and most familiar for them. If a user has been using Windows for 15 years, then the Mac is simply (probably) not the best way of doing things. It MIGHT become the best way, but that can take years - it might not happen ever.

I think there's something you aren't getting either: Everyone is different. Fred Brooks reports that in the old days, when everyone who had a computer could afford to pay onsite programmers, each company would have its own payroll program, and that payroll program would be written to mimic, as best as possible, the company's paper accounts system. Now that everyone and his dog uses Excel, everyone fits their accounting practices to it (and it would be the same if they were all using Oo.org Calc, VisiCalc or 1-2-3).

In the same way, since not everyone has the time, inclination, or ability to design and write a user interface for their operating system and applications, everyone makes do with the one they're given (whether their system of choice/work is Mac, Linux, or Windows). Even Linux, which in theory allows you to use any number of interface designs, is moving towards "the big two".

But that's far and away a different kettle of fish than if someone did studies (on virgin subjects) to determine which (if any), of a myriad of different interface styles people liked. And the one that grabbed the most amount of people in total is very much more likely to be the one that the greatest amount of people disliked least, than the one they liked best.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I think there's something you aren't getting either: Everyone is different.

Exactly, which is what I said in the article. And because of this, it is hard (impossible) to claim that one design is better than the other - you can, at best, claim that one design is better than the other, for you.

But that's far and away a different kettle of fish than if someone did studies (on virgin subjects) to determine which (if any), of a myriad of different interface styles people liked. And the one that grabbed the most amount of people in total is very much more likely to be the one that the greatest amount of people disliked least, than the one they liked best.

How nice that is in theory, that research would most likely prove to be fairly useless in the western world, since everyone here basically has experience with graphical user interfaces.

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superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

Even saying a design is better FOR YOU just means it's what you're used too... Wasn't there an article about this, ppl who simply preferred a familiar interface over another one, even if the second one was 'objectively' much more usable... ???

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

And the one that grabbed the most amount of people in total is very much more likely to be the one that the greatest amount of people disliked least, than the one they liked best.


That and had the brightest shiny. My roommate's girlfriend had him install Ubuntu on her laptop <s>because of</s> for Beryl after she saw him playing with it. ;)

Not saying that it would be the only reason that people would choose one but attractive packaging does help.

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superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

Even saying a design is better FOR YOU just means it's what you're used too... Wasn't there an article about this, ppl who simply preferred a familiar interface over another one, even if the second one was 'objectively' much more usable... ???

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