Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Jul 2007 16:42 UTC, submitted by Kaj de Vos
Syllable, AtheOS Flemming Sørensen created the new Live CD for Syllable 0.6.4. It needs 64 MB of memory. New is the availability of a BitTorrent download. If you are contemplating what to develop for Syllable: Arno Klenke made a new release of the sIDE integrated development environment. The included Sourcery code editor needed to be recompiled to run on Syllable 0.6.4. Also, Kristian Van Der Vliet recently rewrote all Syllable documentation.
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And now, for something completely different...
by n0xx on Tue 17th Jul 2007 21:53 UTC
n0xx
Member since:
2005-07-12

The more I use Windows or Linux, the more think that there's stuff going on that it's just plain wrong. Sure an OS is defined by the apps that run on it, and what those apps enable you to achieve. In that perspective there's little argument that indeed Windows rules the corporate and multimedia desktop because of office 2K7 and flash, photoshop, etc... and Linux is really starting to gain momentum in the home and small office, mainly because of the security features and the availability of superior everyday usage applications(pidgin, firefox, exaile, banshee, f-spot, etc).

That's all fine and dandy... However, a few days ago i followed a link on slashdot and found:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756 (google.com)

I watched that video and then it struck me... I suddenly remembered why I used to say that BeOS was the best OS ever... I mean... that stress test is just plain sick! I've shown that to a friend of mine and he just went stupid. He said "This can't be true, this is not possible, not even my P4 does that." He uses Vista. I use Ubuntu on a Centrino Duo, and I don't think I can do it either.

What I'm trying to say is... yes, applications and compatibility is very important, but what the hell have all our operating systems turned into? Gruesome multi gigabyte monstrosities, no longer the means to an end but an end in themselves... If it was possible to squeeze this kind of performance back then, why isn't it possible now with our "modern" OSes and muticore CPUs?! I for one salute syllable and haiku, because you guys are doing what needs to be done: Getting rid of the bloat, applying modern OS design principles and rewriting the whole damn thing from scratch! Reinventing the wheel? Hell yeah! Ferraris don't run on chopped logs! Take your damn time and build a lean, mean platform on witch to build the killer apps of tomorrow. Make my old Centrino work like it's nobody's business and make those fancy x64 Vista powered machines crying in utter humiliation. But please... Can we have a prettier GUI? ;)

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MissinBeOS Member since:
2006-10-20

Nicely put. ;)

My mind boggles at what a rewritten BeOS would do on modern processors & with gobs of memory and a killer videocard setup.

*sigh*

:)

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helf Member since:
2005-07-06

actually, you can do pretty much all of that easily on new hardware ;)

but for back then, that was pretty cool.

I still love BeOS.. ;) wish it hadnt died

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smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

I watched that video and 3 things struck me.

Did that guy early on remind anyone else of Christopher Walken?

That was extremely impressive for it's time and the hardware it had.

But pretty primitive compared to any modern OS. Bragging about being able to scale to 8 processors and not bog down when maxed out? Playing an uncompressed video on top of another one? Handling a crashed app without crashing the OS? If a Linux distro bragged about doing these things today, it would be laughed off the internet. Some of the stuff they did manipulating the video was pretty neat, but I have to wonder if transitioning from 1 source to the other is very useful - it's certainly something current apps could do if they wanted to.

Anyway, it's too bad BeOS didn't survive, because they were clearly ahead of their time.

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Redeeman Member since:
2006-03-23

All of these things linux can do..

you are confusing various things, you have to realize that when you install a "desktop" linux distribution today, you get a much more complicated system, which you probably would describe as "bloated".

But this is where Linux and all the free software's strength is, you could without too much trouble brew up a very custom tailored suite of software based on linux and other free software, to do this, and in the same performance range. Will it be with gnome? no, with kde? no. but did BeOS have these huge things? no.

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