Star 'Eight Financial Reasons Why You Should Use Mac OS'
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 15:46 UTC, submitted by Flatline
Mac OS X "The advent of Vista and Mac OS X, along with the ascension of Linux, add new dimensions to a long-time controversy. Now more than ever before, the Mac OS is the most cost effective operating system of all."
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Jondice
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2006-09-20

My primary complaint regarding not being able to upgrade isn't about iNquiry, but how Apple handles the Java port. I understand the "frozen configuration" methodology, but there is no good reason not to allow modern Java ports on OS X <= 10.3 on a system they sold as being "enterprise class".

Edit: I look forward to wiping the whole system and putting Linux on it, and hopefully transitioning iNquiry over to a much larger Linux x86_64 cluster sometime next year.

Edited 2007-08-03 16:50

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snozzberry Member since:
2005-11-14

how Apple handles the Java port. I understand the "frozen configuration" methodology, but there is no good reason not to allow modern Java ports on OS X


Unlike other OSes, Java on OS X includes bindings to OS-specific frameworks. These bindings change between OSes: Apple just dropped Cocoa bindings which would be problematic for legacy 10.3 applications that used them.

Apple's mantra is that problems are usually proportional to the number of configurations, so I can see why they don't backport Java to 10.3.

Is it inconvenient and irritating at times? Yes.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

My primary complaint regarding not being able to upgrade isn't about iNquiry, but how Apple handles the Java port. I understand the "frozen configuration" methodology, but there is no good reason not to allow modern Java ports on OS X <= 10.3 on a system they sold as being "enterprise class".


With Java being opensourced, what that should mean is an opensourced built and maintained version which allow you to remain with your chosen version of MacOS X without losing out on updates and security fixes.

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Jondice Member since:
2006-09-20

Should, but we will see if that happens. I agree it is a good thing and the potential is there, but is the demand? While my problem is irritating and (as has been admitted) would not likely happen had another unix system been chosen, I simply don't think there is the demand there for it. Also, unless things have changed, I believe Apple's patches to Java are still closed, so there would likely be quite a lot of work involved.

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