Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Aug 2007 18:02 UTC
Apple Apple has released new iMacs, with a new interior (up to 2.8Ghz Core 2 Duo) as well as new exterior (thinner, with a black back, as well as black 'eyeliner' around the screen), including a new keyboard, during a press event in Cupertino today. Apple also released new version of its iLife and iWork suites. iLife has seen updates on all its applications, while iWork has also received a new spreadsheet application called Numbers. Update: The Mac Mini has been updated too.
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RE[2]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL
by theGrump on Tue 7th Aug 2007 19:56 UTC in reply to "RE: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL"
theGrump
Member since:
2005-11-11

haha, the archetype of the consumer...this platonic ideal exists only in your head.

if consumers want simple, no buttons, no options, why do all of the following products sell well?:

- manual shift sports cars
- high end audio
- high end video
- digital SLRs that do not just "point and shoot"
- high-end kitchen anything

etc etc etc

stop leaning on the "ideal" of the consumer

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RE[3]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL
by LobalSurgery on Tue 7th Aug 2007 20:41 in reply to "RE[2]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL"
LobalSurgery Member since:
2006-09-07

Well sure, those items sell, and there's a definite market for them, but they don't sell well compared to cheaper, more pedestrian products.

What percentage of new cars today (in the US, at least) are sold with a manual transmission, 10%? I would say that most cars (with the notable exceptions of compacts and sports cars) don't even offer one anymore. It's simply not justifiable for car manufacturers to go through the financial/developmental hurdles of such an option when so few people actually want it.

I love my stick shift car and Canon SLR, but for every high-end camera that's sold, probably twenty (or fifty!) point-and-shoot models fly off the shelves for $200.

I guess the average OSNews reader is not an average technology purchaser, and that's just fine.

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RE[4]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL
by Chicken Blood on Tue 7th Aug 2007 20:48 in reply to "RE[3]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL"
Chicken Blood Member since:
2005-12-21

Fully agree. I lot of posters here are out of touch with the real world.

It's not an insult, just a reminder that we should all talk to our non-geek friends from time to time.

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RE[4]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL
by theGrump on Tue 7th Aug 2007 21:45 in reply to "RE[3]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL"
theGrump Member since:
2005-11-11

"Well sure, those items sell, and there's a definite market for them, but they don't sell well compared to cheaper, more pedestrian products."

want to compare profit margins on ferraris and toyota camrys? smaller audience does not mean smaller profit.

"What percentage of new cars today (in the US, at least) are sold with a manual transmission, 10%?"

but these models continue to sell well, as do the other "not simple" products i described, and they have sold well over decades...clearly people want these products. clearly some people will sacrifice simplicity for control in certain cases.

and really, are PCs that much more complex? or did you really believe the contrived comparison diagram with the dell?

the only difference between a standard desktop pc and the imac is two cords: monitor video input and monitor power cable. thats it.

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RE[4]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL
by dagw on Tue 7th Aug 2007 23:00 in reply to "RE[3]: DOWN FANBOY, HEEL"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

But why do $200 cameras sell more than SLRs? Is it because all the features on the big SLRs scare people is it because the $200 camera is much smaller, easier to carry and costs $200? I recently bought a $200 digital camera, not because I'm too stupid to use an SLR (I've used manual film SLRs all my life), but because $200 was what I had to spend on a digital camera.

As for manual transmissions, that's just a strange culture thing. I don't for a second believe that Europeans are in any way smarter or more technical than Americans, and here automatics are incredibly rare.

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