Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Aug 2007 21:11 UTC, submitted by rx182
Mono Project When Microsoft chief software architect Ray Ozzie unveiled Silverlight at MIX07, he vowed that it would be a cross-platform technology. It appears as if the software giant is making good on that pledge: SD Times has learned that some of Microsoft's top developers have provided technical guidance for a Linux implementation of Silverlight.
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RE[4]: Maybe...
by google_ninja on Thu 9th Aug 2007 22:46 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Maybe..."
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MS is always big on mindshare. The best silverlight tools will always be on windows, they sell the tools and sell the platform.

Just out of curiosity, have you actually seen silverlight?

It completely destroys flash when it comes to rich application design in a web browser. JavaFX (and apollo from adobe, which you didnt mention) Are a similar idea, but for the desktop. Whether those take off or not is anyones guess, as it would be a new way off looking at desktop application development. But Silverlight is the first truely elegant solution I have seen to the web application problem. I would still use flash for animations, but that is about it. From rich application functionality to content delivery, Silverlight is on a whole other playing field.

Not to start a flame war or anything, but we were just arguing about this in another thread like, yesterday, so I wanted to point out that it is the MS/Novell deal that makes the port to linux a reality. Patent indemnification aside, the deal is what will allow linux users access to something which is quite likely to really take off in the next few years.

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RE[5]: Maybe...
by butters on Thu 9th Aug 2007 23:31 in reply to "RE[4]: Maybe..."
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First of all, I'm fully aware of Silverlight's technical merit. Look at my other post in this thread.

Sure, Microsoft could make it so that the premium Silverlight development tools are only available for Windows. Then they tie the developers to Windows. But that won't get the consumers, which are the vast majority of the market.

A web development platform can't be used to sell Windows to consumers. As long as the content is available on other platforms, it becomes a non-issue for consumers. And Microsoft needs the content to be available on other platforms. Otherwise Flash wins.

But more importantly, the MS/Novell deal probably does nothing to change the Moonlight/Mono patent situation. It specifically excludes "Clone Products", including (but not limited to) Wine, OpenOffice, and OpenXchange. Mono could very well be considered a Clone Product as well, and therefore it could fall outside the bounds of the patent covenant.

I'm telling you, the patent covenants are NOT what they seem. The Foundry Products clause is even more troubling...

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RE[6]: Maybe...
by PlatformAgnostic on Fri 10th Aug 2007 03:48 in reply to "RE[5]: Maybe..."
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I don't think the goal for Windows is to try selling it to more people to grow it faster than the general growth of the PC market. They just need to keep feature parity with MacOS in the consumer space and keep up their lead on manageability in businesses.

They want to sell the Silverlight development tools, though, and the general .NET technology. That stuff will run great on Windows Servers, of course. It'd just make sense to deploy the full Microsoft stack becaus it will fit together.

As for other platforms, Microsoft has already implemented it in-house for the Mac. There is no other platform that matters to a significant degree in the consumer space. OSNews is not a normal demographic; it's simply not worth the effort to implement this stuff for the small number of consumers who are on linux.

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RE[5]: Maybe...
by notig on Fri 10th Aug 2007 00:20 in reply to "RE[4]: Maybe..."
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Hey I agree... but there is nothing stopping the OSS community from making their own tools. It seems like so much fear and FUD is being spread around it though that people are hesitant.

For myself I will be using moonlight in the future and if people will want to use my program then they can get the browser plug in for it when it is ready

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