Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Aug 2007 20:16 UTC, submitted by superstoned
KDE The article yesterday on KDE4 triggered both Sebastian Kuegler and Aaron Seigo to respond via their blogs. Kuegler writes: "The Free Desktop and KDE have come a long way during the last years. There have been various huge changes in KDE's social structure, in it's infrastructure and of course in the sourcecode itself. I've split this into three different areas where I think a shift in paradigm has taken place." Seigo writes: "Mark my words: KDE4 is a revolution unfolding and you're getting to watch it all happen from the very beginning."
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RE[5]: Marketing speak?
by Richard Dale on Fri 31st Aug 2007 10:42 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Marketing speak?"
Richard Dale
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2005-07-22

Sure Mac OS X has some nice stuff the FOSS world doesn't have (yet). On the other hand, the linux kernel is far more capable than what they have

Huh? Mac OS X is based on BSD 4.4 with a Mach 3.0 micro-kernel. It is certainly different to Linux, and maybe Unix system calls are slower to call because of the architecture. But 'far more capable' is stretching it a bit. KDE 4 will certainly run very well on Mac OS X with no loss of functionality, and it will use a technically superior window manager than X is on Linux.

You can program Cocoa applications in Objective-C with Interface Builder to construct the UI, and as far as I'm concerned that is still better than KDE application programming in C++. Writing KDE applications in Ruby or Python might be a different matter, but we need to push that and get more adoption with lots of python and ruby apps before we can really claim KDE 4 is as good a RAD environment.

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RE[6]: Marketing speak?
by superstoned on Fri 31st Aug 2007 12:39 in reply to "RE[5]: Marketing speak?"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

KDE 4 APPS will run, not plasma, and not everything to the extend possible. KDE is Free Software, build to function best on Free Software, and we will keep it that way. Indeed, Mac OS X is superior in some area's, I just wanted to point out it isn't in all area's. The kernel is an example (scaling the Mach kernel for servers is horrible, and I know, I worked at a company who tried it) and there are more examples.

and yes, overall, Mac OS X might be better. But it is Non-free, so it sucks, no matter how you look at it as it is build to take away your freedom - and I'm serious about that. Besides, my point is mostly about the innovation we hope to make possible in the future, not how KDE 4.0 stacks against Leopard (I agree Leopard is better in most areas).

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