Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st Aug 2007 19:24 UTC, submitted by Anonymous
FreeBSD The latest issue of the FreeBSD newsletter contains a letter from the Vice President of the FreeBSD Foundation about the GPLv3. "On June 29th, the Free Software Foundation unveiled version 3 of the GNU General Public license. Even though the majority of software included in the FreeBSD distribution is not covered by any version of the GPL, our community cannot ignore this very popular license or its most recent incarnation. Through extremely successful evangelization, and the popularity of Linux, the misconception that OpenSource and the GPL are synonymous has become pervasive."
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RE[4]: Elmer FUD
by Luminair on Sat 1st Sep 2007 05:19 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Elmer FUD"
Luminair
Member since:
2007-03-30

It is Tivo's hardware before they sell it to you.

Yes, and I didn't exist before I was born. What's your point?


I was getting at the freedom thing. Explaining it would be like explaining a joke. Too late now!

It all comes down to this: the GPLv3 is a software license that dictates hardware design. Software license. Dictating hardware design. That is very strange to a lot of people.

Edited 2007-09-01 05:30 UTC

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RE[5]: Elmer FUD
by butters on Sat 1st Sep 2007 05:48 in reply to "RE[4]: Elmer FUD"
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

the GPLv3 is a software license that dictates hardware design.

Repeating this over and over again won't make it true.

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RE[6]: Elmer FUD
by m_abs on Sat 1st Sep 2007 22:21 in reply to "RE[5]: Elmer FUD"
m_abs Member since:
2005-07-06

>Repeating this over and over again won't make it true.<
And dining it over and over again doesn't make it false.

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RE[5]: Elmer FUD
by freesid on Sat 1st Sep 2007 08:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Elmer FUD"
freesid Member since:
2007-02-19


It all comes down to this: the GPLv3 is a software license that dictates hardware design. Software license. Dictating hardware design. That is very strange to a lot of people.


No. If TiVo burns the GPLv3 software in ROM (which cannot be modified later on by TiVo) then it is not a GPLv3 violation.

What TiVo is doing is, it is reserving the right to modify GPLv3 software, but denying the same right to users. This is a clear violation of GPLv3, don't you feel it?

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RE[6]: Elmer FUD
by sappyvcv on Sat 1st Sep 2007 20:22 in reply to "RE[5]: Elmer FUD"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

What TiVo is doing is, it is reserving the right to modify GPLv3 software, but denying the same right to users. This is a clear violation of GPLv3, don't you feel it?

TiVo doesn't use GPLv3 software, so no.

What TiVo is doing is reserving the right to allow what software gets put on their hardware. They are not denying the right of anyone to modify the software they use.

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RE[5]: Elmer FUD
by pepa on Sun 2nd Sep 2007 05:25 in reply to "RE[4]: Elmer FUD"
pepa Member since:
2005-07-08

If someone is planning on using GPLv3 software on their devices, then, yes, it is 'dictating' their hardware design to the extent that they cannot lock end=users out of modifying that software while they themselves still can. Those are the particular conditions on software propagation that the GPLv3 is designed to impose. If people think it is strange, they can avoid using it if they choose.

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