Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Sep 2007 11:48 UTC, submitted by abdavidson
Opera Software Opera has released an alpha build of their upcoming 9.5 release. "Following the release of Opera 9 last year, we re-wrote Opera's rendering engine for the coming Opera 9.5 release. As a result, Opera 9.5 contains more than a year's worth of speed, standards and performance improvements."
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RE[2]: a few niggles
by pllb on Tue 4th Sep 2007 16:49 UTC
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2007-04-30

Firefox is indeed pretty fat these days...I sorely miss the days where it was meant to be lean and fast...bring phoenix back!

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RE[3]: a few niggles
by WereCatf on Tue 4th Sep 2007 17:07 in reply to "RE[2]: a few niggles"
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2006-02-15

Hihi *giggle* I jus switched over to Opera from Epiphany, for several reasons: even though Opera uses Qt it loads up just as fast as Epiphany, it's a whole lot smoother, it has got several features I simply LOVE (speed dial!), and it just seems to consume less resources, both RAM and CPU...Firefox doesn't differ that much from Epiphany since they both use the same engine. The only wish I have is that Opera would blend more seamlessly in my existing GNOME environment. And well, I have a gripe against any apps using BOTH menubar and toolbar since they duplicate same functionality. But well, considering how much features Opera boasts it's kind of understandable. I would appreciate anyway that apps would start choosing EITHER a menubar OR a toolbar, not both.

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RE[4]: a few niggles
by Dave_K on Tue 4th Sep 2007 18:21 in reply to "RE[3]: a few niggles"
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2005-11-16

And well, I have a gripe against any apps using BOTH menubar and toolbar since they duplicate same functionality. But well, considering how much features Opera boasts it's kind of understandable. I would appreciate anyway that apps would start choosing EITHER a menubar OR a toolbar, not both.


I don't really understand this gripe. Toolbars and menubars are designed for different purposes, and as such don't really duplicate the same functionality.

A menubar stores virtually every option in the application, categorised in a (hopefully) logical way to help the new user discover all those features. In most complex modern applications there can be dozens (or even hundreds) of menu options, far too many for a clutter free toolbar.

With the menu storing all those rarely used options, the toolbar can simply hold a handful of the most commonly used options. Options that you access so regularly that the extra time taken to open a menu would become significant.

Without a toolbar you'd lose that quick access, making the application slower to use. Without a menubar you'd have to clutter the toolbar with many rarely used options, again making it slower to access them.

To me it makes perfect sense to have both a menubar and a toolbar in the default GUI configuration. Of course if you don't want one or the other (or either of them) then they can quickly be turned off. There are plenty of people who just browse with mouse gestures and contextual menus, especially people who like to browse full screen.

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RE[5]: a few niggles
by WereCatf on Tue 4th Sep 2007 18:47 in reply to "RE[3]: a few niggles"
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2006-02-15

I kind of think that a simple "Advanced options" button would be a lot more funtional than including both. For example, "Reload" button DOES indeedn duplicate funcionality. Why not make the user select the most commonly used buttons on the first run and then make the less used ones useable under an another button? Yes, I might be one of the few, but I personally hate apps that duplicate functionality by including both menubar and toolbar. It's a waste of space and time. Toolbar is a better choice in the sense that brains remember figures and images better than meanings of a series of figures (a series of characters, for example).

And yes, I still wish Epiphany would improve even just a LITTLE BIT, but there doesn't seem to be happenin anything at all!

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