Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Sep 2007 15:54 UTC, submitted by Josh Graham
AMD AMD has unveiled its first set of quad-core processors, three months after its original launch date. This 'complicated' design that resulted in the delay and puts the chip maker a full generation behind its archrival in terms of chip manufacturing processes.
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by cutterjohn on Tue 11th Sep 2007 16:26 UTC
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It's going to take AMD a lot longer than a year to catch up to Intel in terms of performance. AMD sat on, basically, the same old design for years adding nothing but what, essentially, amounted to compatibility "features". They milked their relative performance throughput and power for too long without really do anything new. (Tying GPU functions to the CPU doesn't interest me in the slightest, especially if AMD's big deal is to go as far as tightly coupling their processors to their new ATI subsidiary GPUs...)

I really don't see AMD's current design crew turning out anything matching, let alone, surpassing, current Intel designs within a year, and probably even longer. Now all AMD has going for it is power use efficiency, but from power consumption benchmarks those are only relevant if you have a server with a great deal of dead time, which is something I certainly wouldn't want to have unless it was some type of server for a small/medium sized office, as at full throughput the two companies' chips are close enough in terms of power utilization, and Intel's throughput efficiency added to that gives them a clear win in a business setting. As to my home machines, I game, and do development and other things at home, so I want the throughput giving another loss to AMD.

Bottom line, even though I haven't really looked at it, I'd hazard that AMD's only real hope for decent sales ATM would be to push their mobile processors.

Beyond that I'm still waiting for Intel's new bus design to show up, which should give them a few more percentage points in overall performance, that is unless I missed it's release somewhere in the last year and it turned out to really be a dud.

Attention grammar police, you missed something yourself.

Edited 2007-09-11 16:29

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by Kochise on Thu 13th Sep 2007 10:30 in reply to "AMD"
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I suppose that instead to focus merely on the marketing department, they were spending a lot in the R&D department, which not prooved any or little efficiency face to Intel's offering. Up to now yet ! The HyperTransport stuff is fantastic... on the paper, but Intel prooved that some hacks can achieve good performance. Like demomakers do superb working with the software, Intel's engineers have made a wonderful job with the Core2 Duo/Quad processor, you cannot miss it. Not only the overall performance is good, the power consumtion is pretty low (compared to what we'd used to know with the Pentium-D serie) and the price tag is very affordable.

However you've to see all of this on a larger scale. Intel choose to react fast on the market, but have to 'hack' each next processor to maintain its steps foreward. On the other side, AMD took its time improving the HyperTransport, tweaking things thightly, using the Opteron to check things on a real-life incarnation of their thoughts, selling less 'advanced' K8 chips up to now just to make enough revenue to ensure being able to sustain the R&D for their next generation chips.

And I bet they're reaching the final step and are close to be ready to lauch something that'll blast everybody's mind, like they did before with the Athlon serie of processors ! But now they heard what everybody was expecting from them and their chips, so I guess they're taking their time to make things worthy and reliable, to define a new level of confidence in their product line...

Plus add the whole chipmaker experience from ATI, about memory bus driving (HyperMemory, doesn't it sounds familiar ? HyperTransport, HyperMemory) and parallel shaders ALU logic, so you can bet that the new chips will be better integrated, etched with a finer grain, consume less (Cool'n Quiet experience), so...

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