Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Sep 2007 19:36 UTC
Windows As VMware steps into the virtualization limelight in San Francisco at its VMworld conference Sept. 11, Microsoft is trying to steal some of that thunder by making a number of announcements of its own. Microsoft is announcing that it plans to deliver the first release candidate of Windows Server 2008 later this month. The first Community Technology Preview of Windows Server Virtualization, code-named Viridian, will be released at the same time, Larry Orecklin, Microsoft's general manager of marketing for System Center, said at a media event Sept. 10.
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RE: What I'm wondering
by TemporalBeing on Tue 11th Sep 2007 21:09 UTC in reply to "What I'm wondering"
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2007-08-22

Well, historically Samba has been about a generation behind Microsoft due to the fact that they are essentially reverse engineering the MS SMB/CIFS protocol using network packet analysis. (They've discovered some really cool things about Windows as a result too. Just check their docs and you'll see some of the treasures.)

So, unless (as the other poster suggests) Microsoft plays more nicely this time around and doesn't change their SMB/CIFS protocol, then it will likely happen again.

But that's not really a big deal, as Samba would still be able to interop with the new protocol much the same way that WS2003, Win2k, WinXP, and others will. So they won't be left out in the dark, just not able to run as a PDC/BDC in a WS2K8 network; but it is not likely that there will be many Win2k8 networks for a while as businesses will try it out in test labs, etc. before putting into production.

So, it's all up to how much Microsoft modified the protocol; on the other hand, given that Vista has been out for a while now, it is possible that they could have reverse engineered some of the Vista-to-Vista specifics and have a head start - who knows, they may have even gotten a Win2k8 beta too (not likely though).

Best head over to the Samba mailing list for an official and real answer.

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RE[2]: What I'm wondering
by Ventajou on Wed 12th Sep 2007 02:39 in reply to "RE: What I'm wondering"
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2006-10-31

There's no such thing as a PDC in an AD environment.

That doesn't mean it'll be trivial for the samba team to add win2008 compatibility, but hopefully the main change will be extending the LDAP schema.

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RE[3]: What I'm wondering
by REM2000 on Wed 12th Sep 2007 11:01 in reply to "RE[2]: What I'm wondering"
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2006-07-25

although there is no PDC in the traditional sense, there is always the primary/first server. This server is a little bit different to other servers on the AD.

As for windows 2008, windows 2003 was an excellent release. Very fast rock solid, ive only tried out the win2008 CTP for a little bit, but first impressions are good. It's still pretty amazing that the company behind Windows Vista is also the company behind Windows 2008, as so far i don't really think much of vista still.

I suppose it comes down to that Microsoft is a good company with lots of very bright people that only seemed to be used when Microsoft wants to fend off opposition. I believe that the windows after Vista R2 will be incredibly good due to the mounting competition from Mac OSX and Linux.

However back on track, Core services look good for data centres, lowering the attack surface. I'll be interested to see what sort of performance we will get from SQL Server 2008 and Win2008. As i think Win2003 and SQL 2005 are one of the best databases around, very quick/reliable with some great tools.

Although it would be nice to have a 2008 release for the three products at the same time (The last one i can remember was 2005 (VS, SQL Server and Biz Talk). I hope Microsoft doesn't sacrifice Win2008 quaility for marketing.

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