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There is no we, because what you said was a lie. I doubt you linux credentials and this thread points it out.
I use lie; where I perhaps should use the term subterfuge; or ignorance.
I'm exited by the *next* generation of Linux based GNU. ; The combination of X.org 7.3+Linux 2.6.23+Compiz+Fuzion(whatever). Simply because so many of those niggles that power-users(sic) workaround have been fixed. It was actually frustrating to see so posts on X.org 7.3. I include such niggles as "Widescreen on Intel"; Native wireless drivers; Native r300-r400 support; Screen rotation+resolution fixes and a whole host of other problems that have plagued the desktop for too long, and hopefully will not be held back by pragmatic(sic) binary drivers.
Their is no we simply because I don't agree the main reason being I'm using wireless Linux right now. The 2.6.22 and 2.6.23 have been revolutionary in their wi-fi support. Buying a compatible wifi card/stick is trivial and cheap $10-$15 you can pick one from http://linuxwireless.org/. It doesn't help laptop owners with built in wi-fi because reasonably they don't want a cheap usb stick hanging out of their $1000 laptop, but I suspect wi-fi support has moved from spotty to good!? in the last two revisions of the kernel...and I mean native support rather than a wrapper to binary drivers. Unfortunately for GNU computability even today far from universal although its made large strides recently...and that trend is set to continue. Saying anything otherwise is a lie. I'd love to say that 10% or 95% of wireless chips are supported, and if you can point to any current figures I would love to see them.
Now your other point that separates the *you* from me, is that you lie about support for the xpress 200M chip that you say is in your machine, and you are part of that problem that I say will be fixed in the next generation of distribution or *now* if you technically capable. 3D on your chip has been available since June, and you seem blissfully unaware of whats happening on your own machine. Now if you would have said that good open-source drivers for what is based on a 5 year old chipset being available to GNU has been a failing linux I'd tend to agree, but lets talk about the *NOW*.
Linux has been typically bad in areas geared towards the GNU desktop, simply becuase Linux driven by companies only interested in the server. Times have changed you even acknowledge as much elsewhere. The next generation of Distributions move from power-user friendly to everybody. I'm very excited. It doesn't solve the artificial problems overstated elsewhere(codecs; those adobe products; cutting edge gaming).
Like I say. I paint a rosy picture...but I'm very aware that all kinds of problems remain, although those very problems you describe are gone.






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2005-07-24
Two things. First of all, I'm intrigued by your comment "There is no we." What do you mean by that, exactly?
But on the main topic... I do not recall a hardware support problem quite so frustrating as the current WiFi situation. Wifi is unreliable enough even under ideal circumstances. And the current situation with Linux is far from ideal. With winmodems, you could just avoid them. With winprinters, you could just avoid them. With sound cards, you could make sure that what you bought was soundblaster compatible.
But with wifi, support is spotty, vendors change model numbers more frequently than most of us change underwear, and to make matters even worse, you can get a Linksys model 6BX7 version 4.0 and get one chipset, or pick up the 6BX7 version 5.0 in the identical looking box on the shelf right next to it... and the chipset is from a completely different vendor. That is not really the exception. That is the common case.
Ironically, notebook buyers actually have it easier in this respect. They can buy a notebook with an intel chipset.
But if they make the wrong choice, they're stuck. I bought a Compaq presario. It has an HP branded mini-pci wifi card with a broadcom chipset. (yuck!) I ordered in an intel based mini-pci card and installed it. The bios complains that only HP cards are supported and the laptop refuses to boot. -System Halted-
Edited 2007-09-19 03:59