Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 23rd Sep 2007 13:43 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Just like Eugenia yesterday, I also upgraded my laptop's Ubuntu Feisty installation to Gutsy a few days ago. The upgrade process went completely awry, though, so I was forced to do a fresh install. Not a bad thing, as it gave me the opportunity to take a look at Ubuntu's soon-to-be-released Gutsy Gibbon with GNOME 2.20
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"not a bad thing"
by abdavidson on Sun 23rd Sep 2007 23:30 UTC
abdavidson
Member since:
2005-07-06

Sorry, I could't go any further with this than when you say that an upgrade install screwing up your system is "not a bad thing".

That's a terrible attitude.

Would it be said about a Windows upgrade install screwing up the existing setup being "not a bad thing"? No, it wouldn't and isn't.

Terrible...

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RE: "not a bad thing"
by DeadFishMan on Sun 23rd Sep 2007 23:46 in reply to ""not a bad thing""
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

As someone already pointed out previously on this thread, had it happened to any other Linux distro on the planet and the reviewer would be bashing it to death, with a large following agreeing with his conclusions. Ubuntu managed to break THE best thing about Debian - not for the first time, I shall mention - but people still will go out of their way to praise it...

Different strokes for different folks, indeed.

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RE[2]: "not a bad thing"
by Luminair on Mon 24th Sep 2007 05:46 in reply to "RE: "not a bad thing""
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

The guy used an unsupported method of upgrading to unsupported software... its hard to say that this makes ubuntu any worse than debian, because debian is fallable too!

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RE: "not a bad thing"
by spikeb on Mon 24th Sep 2007 00:40 in reply to ""not a bad thing""
spikeb Member since:
2006-01-18

it would be more horrible if this was actually a release

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RE: "not a bad thing"
by Soulbender on Mon 24th Sep 2007 04:12 in reply to ""not a bad thing""
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

That's a terrible attitude.


Because we never expect things to break in products that are in development.

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RE: "not a bad thing"
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 24th Sep 2007 06:41 in reply to ""not a bad thing""
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Sorry, I could't go any further with this than when you say that an upgrade install screwing up your system is "not a bad thing".

That's a terrible attitude.


It was too much trouble to read through the comments, wasn't it? Like I said earlier: "You misunderstood me. I am not saying the messed up upgrade is good - I'm saying that the fact that I can now do a fresh install is good. That is something completely different. A fresh install is much better from a reviewer's perspective, as it creates a much more objective environment."

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RE[2]: "not a bad thing"
by l3v1 on Mon 24th Sep 2007 09:37 in reply to "RE: "not a bad thing""
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

A fresh install is much better from a reviewer's perspective, as it creates a much more objective environment.


Totally valid, if you'd review, like, Windows. But with a Linux distro one should expect a working update/upgrade path, since this is one of the major features of a Linux distro. I would never use a Linux distro which doesn't have a working upgrade path, and I don't care if it's under development. They started from Debian, they should keep learning from it.

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