Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 30th Sep 2007 14:00 UTC
Amiga & AROS The Amiga world is an interesting one to follow. As an outsider, it is almost impossible to fully understand all the processes at work over there. The various companies, the individuals, the developers, The Three Men And A Cow who own an AmigaOne - they are not making it any easier. The past few weeks have seen quite a few news items regarding the Amiga platform. Did they help in creating a clearer picture of where the Amiga stands?
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What the platform needs...
by w-ber on Sun 30th Sep 2007 18:13 UTC
w-ber
Member since:
2005-08-21

I think what the platform now needs is one or two oligarchs to buy out all brand names, solve legal issues with either money or armies of lawyers, then give it away to the fervent community to do as they wish. (Why not? Oligarchs seem to buy anything from oil companies to giant airplanes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_oligarch) That way they could possibly get out of the vicious cycle.

As for AROS, it would be very interesting if the project decoupled most of the operating system from any one hardware platform and went the way of JNode (http://www.jnode.org/) -- that is, implement a platform-dependent nanokernel and a virtual machine, then do the rest of the system programming with a programming language targeted at the virtual machine.

Why? This way porting it to classic Amigas, PowerPC systems, or any other device would be much easier. They might also be able to use, through the abstracted hardware presented by the supposed virtual machine, GPUs as extra CPUs and other fancy things -- "custom" processing units in the Amiga sense, in a way. This is what AROS is lacking from the Amiga experience in my opinion: the feel of running on a completely unorthodox or at least uncommon hardware platform, geared towards performance.

RE: What the platform needs...
by neozeed on Sun 30th Sep 2007 21:20 in reply to "What the platform needs..."
neozeed Member since:
2006-03-03

Unlike say NetBSD or Linux right?

Sorry this nano/micro kernel thing is some BS that CS professors have been forcing on kids for ages. Guess what, the overhead is horrible.

I've actually built out a mach/bsd system, and it was INSANELY slow..

Trust me, it's not worth the hassle.

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WiggetyWhack Member since:
2007-06-30

It is an issue of not understanding how a WHO microkernel system needs to be designed/implemented. QNX for instance is fast, and a solid as the densest star... not just GNU tools compiled on top of a uKernel

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paws Member since:
2007-05-28

Mach is notoriously shit.

L4, QNX, BeOS, Haiku... not so shit.

Just because one implementation is bad doesn't mean that the concept doesn't hold.

Edited 2007-10-01 08:11

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