Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 30th Sep 2007 14:00 UTC
Amiga & AROS The Amiga world is an interesting one to follow. As an outsider, it is almost impossible to fully understand all the processes at work over there. The various companies, the individuals, the developers, The Three Men And A Cow who own an AmigaOne - they are not making it any easier. The past few weeks have seen quite a few news items regarding the Amiga platform. Did they help in creating a clearer picture of where the Amiga stands?
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RIP Amiga
by makfu on Mon 1st Oct 2007 04:50 UTC
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People really need to let go of the Amiga. This hacked together nonsense and ridiculous circus is nothing like the Amiga of old. I learned how to program (680x0 assembler) on the Amiga, and learned the joys of Angus and building copper lists (REAL programmable video hardware in 1985!). The hardware is a large part of what made the Amiga such an amazing machine in her day. From the original hardware, through ECS and AGA, the Amiga was, even in the crummy A4000 implementation, an elegant and beautiful hardware architecture (with the ECS based A3000 being the pinnacle of Amiga hardware).

Amiga(D)OS, Intuition and the workbench UI were pretty interesting in their own right, but it was the complete package that made the Amiga so damn neat. It was the unique and powerful hardware, multitasking OS and highly approachable API that made programming on the Amiga fun and interesting, regardless if you were doing low-level stuff or building interesting workbench apps. The Amiga could simply do stuff other computers of that era couldnít. The PC wouldnít soundly surpass the Amiga until almost two years after C=ís death, which is pretty remarkable given that Amiga R&D was already badly in decline, post A3000. Oh, and the games were simply wonderful (Stunt Car Racer and Shadow of the Beast anyone?).

Today all this drama around the Amiga is just stupid. The current available AmigaOS (3.9) is based on an OS architected for an era that didnít feature or require MMUís, demand-page virtual memory, SMP, advanced layered driver stacks and hosts of other things that modern OSís support. The original 680x0 processor and hardware is now long obsolete, and all these PPC accelerators, RTG gfx hardware and hacks are just brutally kludgy and inelegant extensions to a once beautiful platform. Itís like exhuming the body of a beloved family member and plastering makeup and lipstick on the mummified remains.

Everything that was great, exciting, new and unique about the Amiga is dead and has been for 13 years. What is left is this freak show of people who just wonít leave well enough alone and move on. Ultimately, this is tarnishing the history of what was one of the greatest and most influential platforms of all time. The Amiga is dead, let her rest in peace.

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RE: RIP Amiga
by Anonymous Penguin on Mon 1st Oct 2007 05:11 in reply to "RIP Amiga"
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Excellent post, pity I can mod you up only one point.
In summary: let go of the past, that is true of everything in life. Keep having fond memories, by any means, but don't mummify anything.

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RE[2]: RIP Amiga
by marafaka on Mon 1st Oct 2007 09:25 in reply to "RE: RIP Amiga"
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I think there is a saying about history and repeating...

Edited 2007-10-01 09:26

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A new Amiga must be a Quantum Leap for computers.
by axilmar on Tue 2nd Oct 2007 11:31 in reply to "RIP Amiga"
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Just like the old Amiga was a quantum leap for computers, the new Amiga must be a Quantum Leap as well.

What does it mean to make a quantum leap these days? In my opinion:

1) high parallelism in hardware. The Old Amiga introduced custom chips for specific tasks, then PCs followed with custom hardware. The new Amiga should do away with custom chips and shall offer a highly programmable array of thousands of small cores capable of functioning in parallel.

2) highly advanced software development. The new parallel hardware needs a programming language which solves the problems of thread synchronization (deadlocks, priority of inversion etc), and of resource management (memory leaks, buffer overruns etc).

3) a distributed collaborative environment out of the box. All that it should be needed is to hook the computer to the network...then it should be able to communicate and digitally collaborate with any one on the planet with the same ease as using the mouse to draw a shape.

4) an abstraction over the information storage. The original Amiga had an advanced file system much like today's environment, information is the most important property for many, so information must flow between humans and computers. The new Amiga environment should make sharing information many times easier than what it is today.

Of course it would take a potentially big team of great minds to do all the above. Still, that's what would make a new computing platform jaw dropping as the Amiga was back then...

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Downix Member since:

In theory you're discussing CELL, but not quite either.

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