First Syllable Server Development Release
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 6th Oct 2007 23:12 UTC, submitted by Kaj de Vos
Syllable, AtheOS The first development release of Syllable Server is available. It provides a text mode Linux environment, but also contains a preliminary graphical environment built on the framebuffer device, with DirectFB and SDL on top. The planned graphical environment from Syllable Desktop is not included yet. The installation procedure is short, but is still manual - and resembles the installation procedure for the old AtheOS. Included are tools such as a graphical web browser, a file manager and an editor. One thing Syllable Server is designed for is to function as a light-weight virtualisation platform for running other operating systems (or multiple instances of itself). The QEmu virtualisor/emulator is included, and the KQEmu Accelerator kernel module is integrated into the system. There's a screenshot of Syllable Server running on Syllable Desktop, installation and usage instructions, a torrent (preferred), and an installation package [.tar.7z].
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What a waste of time
by tails92 on Sun 7th Oct 2007 05:40 UTC
tails92
Member since:
2007-10-07

Why develop a new kernel like Syllable if it at the end you're still going to use Linux for a distribution?
It just seems bad managment and waste of time in my opinion.
And their excuses that the Syllable kernel is not good for servers are pathetic, if the kernel really is bad for servers, then why do the kernel developers not adapt the Syllable kernel to servers better?
And, well, web-servers even used to run under DOS, so they why can't them run under Syllable?
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RE: What a waste of time
by smitty on Sun 7th Oct 2007 07:13 in reply to "What a waste of time"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

I think the main issue is hardware support, it's going to be a while before Syllable can realistically provide all the drivers that Linux does. This way if the Syllable kernel doesn't support your hardware they can point you to the linux version as an alternative.

The other possible issue I can see is scalability. The linux kernel is designed to scale up to hundreds of processors, and I'm sure Syllable isn't. In fact, that might even be a good choice for a desktop system since I'm sure there are some design tradeoffs involved. I'm not sure anyone with hardware like that would really want to run Syllable anyway, but perhaps that's what they're aiming for?

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RE: What a waste of time
by Vanders on Sun 7th Oct 2007 10:00 in reply to "What a waste of time"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

if the (Syllable) kernel really is bad for servers, then why do the kernel developers not adapt the Syllable kernel to servers better?


Because that would require a ridiculous amount of work to add server features and hardware drivers which would then simply result in us having a clone of the Linux kernel.

And, well, web-servers even used to run under DOS, so they why can't them run under Syllable?


Right. I don't know many people running DOS on their servers. Perhaps there's a reason for that?

Apache runs on Syllable Desktop already, and Kurt used to run atheos.cx from an AtheOS machine, so it's possible. Running a web server is only one possible application for Syllable Server, and it's not even the most interesting one. A lot of people think of web or mail servers: instead, think of a workgroup and file server.

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