Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 26th Oct 2007 05:34 UTC, submitted by WillM
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Experts say that migrations from Unix to Linux have slowed down because all the low-hanging fruit has now been picked. Linux growth in the U.S. x86 server market has, over the past six quarters, started to falter and reverse its positive course relative to Windows Server and the market as a whole." More here.
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Nice piece of commercial cr*p
by handy on Fri 26th Oct 2007 05:50 UTC
handy
Member since:
2005-07-06

I do not want to troll but this looks like one big advertisement. I only see windows logos and people of MS speaking at this page.

If I look to previous announcements from Dell their Linux sales grow increased more then there windows sales (percent wise). Same to Novell and Redhat their increased sales.

So I call this magical-stuff with numbers and a clear FUD sponsore campaign from MS again. Like the "Get-the-facts" ad banner I see above this webform ;)

Edited 2007-10-26 05:53

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arctic Member since:
2006-04-19

Just did some research on the writer. He works for Ziff Davis Media, a company that is collaborating with Windows a lot, also because they have their very own interest in pushing Windows.

"In the United States, the Company publishes six magazine including PC Magazine, eWEEK, CIO Insight, Baseline, Electronic Gaming Monthly and Games For Windows. "

and, even better:

"To our advertising and marketing customers, we deliver access to the content environment and community necessary to reach their most important audience, and, most importantly, help them drive sales growth for their companies."

(http://www.ziffdavis.com/about/company)

I guess this tells us a lot about the value of the article.

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ssa2204 Member since:
2006-04-22

This article, sad to say is not exactly news. This has been reported in many other channels. You are looking for a conspiracy where none exists.

Anyone half in tune to the market would have told you that as businesses finished migrating to Linux from Unix, sales would slow down. What is so difficult to understand about this. My god, I was reading about this a year ago in an article about Novell.

And in a day when so many are quick to point to blogs and wikipedia, it is quite ridiculous to outright dismiss an article by Eweek simply because it reports something that doesn't mesh with how you want the world to work. I will leave it to someone else to explain exactly how much more wrong it would be if the report falsley claimed that Linux was growing at an outstanding rate when it actually was not.

The solution is not to revert to conspiracies, do you honestly think that companies like Red Hat or Novell are simply going to just chalk this up to some nefarious reasons, or are they simply going to work harder at marketing their product and improving customer relations and communications?

You know the old saying, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen really applies to this.

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dbodner Member since:
2007-07-01

Just did some research on the writer. He works for Ziff Davis Media, a company that is collaborating with Windows a lot, also because they have their very own interest in pushing Windows.


I don't mean to devalue your super-slueth'ness, but it's not exactly a surprise that he works for ziff davis. From the very article that was posted:

Copyright 1996-2007 Ziff Davis Enterprise Inc. All Rights Reserved. eWEEK and Spencer F. Katt are trademarks of Ziff Davis Enterprise, Inc

I mean, thanks for the insight, but we can all read the copyright information on the bottom.

As for the merits of eWeek, back when I used to browse it (which has been a few years), they covered *nix technologies more than they did Windows technologies.

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baadger Member since:
2006-08-29

If I look to previous announcements from Dell their Linux sales grow increased more then there windows sales (percent wise). Same to Novell and Redhat their increased sales.


You second sentence here is irrelevant. Neither Redhat or Novell sell Microsoft Windows based products so increased sales here doesn't tell you anything about server market share.

Also, Dell's Linux sales may be selling at a rate out pacing the increase in Windows machine sales but why would this be surprising? They've only been selling Linux for a shot time, and Vista for almost a year now.

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walterbyrd Member since:
2005-12-31

They never tell you exactly how they reached their conclusions. It's always "just take our word for it: we have real experts and did a real study."

It's not just msft v linux either, salary surveys, and the like are equally unsupported.

If I dont' have to show you my research, I could easially "prove" that linux is gaining or msft, or that linux is losing ground to msft.

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v Microsoft earnings
by ecruz on Fri 26th Oct 2007 14:15 in reply to "Nice piece of commercial cr*p"
RE: Microsoft earnings
by agrouf on Fri 26th Oct 2007 16:16 in reply to "Microsoft earnings"
agrouf Member since:
2006-11-17

Fool, Technical superiority, freedom and ethics does not equal religion.
You may have short term interests in financial stock shares and in reports like these but it does not serve us and it does not serve you.

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