Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Nov 2007 13:39 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces This is the fourth article in a series on common usability and graphical user interface related terms [part I | part II | part III]. On the internet, and especially in forum discussions like we all have here on OSNews, it is almost certain that in any given discussion, someone will most likely bring up usability and GUI related terms - things like spatial memory, widgets, consistency, Fitts' Law, and more. The aim of this series is to explain these terms, learn something about their origins, and finally rate their importance in the field of usability and (graphical) user interface design. In part IV today, we focus on a dead horse Fitts' Law.
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RE[3]: menu bar
by hobgoblin on Thu 8th Nov 2007 00:31 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: menu bar"
hobgoblin
Member since:
2005-07-06

that alt+mouse is a feature of the X server, not kde iirc.

hmm, i kinda recall a function in windows that allows one to move the window with the arrow keys. am i getting my desktops mixed up?

also, if one install powerpro on windows (should even work in vista) one get a lot of extra window control features, for free!

btw, i wonder what window control hotkeys thom is missing in windows. honestly, not looking to start a flame.

Edited 2007-11-08 00:33

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RE[4]: menu bar
by eosp on Thu 8th Nov 2007 02:49 in reply to "RE[3]: menu bar"
eosp Member since:
2005-07-07

Yes, you can do the arrow key thing, but that's sometimes slower than idly swinging the cursor in the general direction of a window. Especially with spatial window managers (Nautilus's spatial mode help file was what taught me the alt-trick.)

And GNOME has another shortcut (not alt-right drag like KDE) for resizing.

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RE[5]: menu bar
by leos on Thu 8th Nov 2007 04:55 in reply to "RE[4]: menu bar"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

And GNOME has another shortcut (not alt-right drag like KDE) for resizing.


If they do they sure do a hell of a good job of making it hard to find. It's not an option in any of the config dialogs. Sure there is ALT-F7 or something, but that's not anywhere near as useful or fast.

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RE[4]: menu bar
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 8th Nov 2007 06:31 in reply to "RE[3]: menu bar"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

btw, i wonder what window control hotkeys thom is missing in windows. honestly, not looking to start a flame.


I explained a few posts earlier.

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RE[5]: menu bar
by joshv on Thu 8th Nov 2007 16:08 in reply to "RE[4]: menu bar"
joshv Member since:
2006-03-18

Well, if you find Alt-F4 nigh on impossible to hit, try Alt-Space, C. All three keys are adjacent to one another, shouldn't even break a sweat attempting that one.

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RE[5]: menu bar
by hobgoblin on Thu 8th Nov 2007 16:20 in reply to "RE[4]: menu bar"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

ah, sorry. i thought i had read thru it all but ill give it a second look ;)

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RE[4]: menu bar
by siride on Thu 8th Nov 2007 13:30 in reply to "RE[3]: menu bar"
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

Nope! The X server does not deal with initiating window motion. It only has mechanisms for actually moving the window to a new location on the screen. The Window Manager is entirely responsible for how moves are to be initiated, whether it is clicking on the titlebar, or holding alt, or even using the keyboard. You might be getting confused by the fact that many window managers allow you to use alt+mouse to move a window. But it is no more a feature of X than dragging the title bar is.

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RE[5]: menu bar
by hobgoblin on Thu 8th Nov 2007 16:19 in reply to "RE[4]: menu bar"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

heh, i guess your right. its probably a holdover from the first window managers, that when you first learn is there, you cant do without ;)

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