Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Nov 2007 17:33 UTC, submitted by WillM
Thread beginning with comment 283658
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[5]: Good for Novell!
by JMcCarthy on Thu 8th Nov 2007 19:39
in reply to "RE[4]: Good for Novell!"
First, I am labelling people who advocate the use of proprietary software (in Linux), or people who not only don't believe in free-software (in Linux), but actively chastise it, as rif-raff.
Unless I'm mistaken these people haven't done much to support GNU/Linux, except maybe giving away the occasional trinkets, which may be nice to have, but certainly are not necessary, and infact maybe more harmful in the long run because any time money gets involved, the ideals that got us here in the first place become subordinate to $ and an are generally unimportant.
Basically every country in the world founded on a noble idea is now living proof of this.
Edited 2007-11-08 19:41
Why I miss the good ol' days and hope Linux is a failure gaining desktop market share. It'll still be a good desktop for me though
I don't know if we're thinking about the same thing, but I also miss something, which is basically the by coders for coders attitude, without the "enemy" keeping an eye on it ["enemy" ~ closed source company competitors]. In the days which most of today's users would call the dark middle ages of Linux [which they've never seen since they're mostly new Linux users] I mostly felt the developments were great, I loved what I saw, and I wasn't held back by an unpolished GUI and by frequent need to solve issues by hand, since the underlying stuff was nice. These days the line of development mostly is driven by mass average user "demands" which is not a bad thing in itself [well, depending on who those "users" are], since the polish is nice to have, still, we just keep fading the whole Linux/FOSS concept. The MS-raised generation gives less and less f*ck about the ideas behind Linux&co. , and the "get the work done" approach is also strong, but I don't like it being exclusive. You can get the work done and at the same time follow the FOSS ideas, it's no magic.
These days deals like the Novell-MS pact raises less and less eyebrows, moreover there are masses who congratulae the ideas and the prospects what these deals project. This feels sometimes very disturbing, since it reflects their sometimes unrealistic hopes about the possible outcomes of such an agreement, and is not really based on the past behavior of the agreeing parties.
Thing is, and maybe I'm on drugs that I don't know about, I wish we'll see a change in the landscape at least as changing as Linux's appearance caused in the last 1.5 decade, and soon.





Member since:
2005-08-12
Why I miss the good ol' days and hope Linux is a failure gaining desktop market share. It'll still be a good desktop for me though
All this rif-raff is harmful to the ideals that got us here in the first place.