Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Nov 2007 19:49 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris Erstwhile bitter rivals Dell and Sun Microsystems are set to announce that Sun's Solaris and OpenSolaris operating systems will be supported in all of Dell's servers. Dell founder and CEO Michael Dell and Sun Microsystems CEO Jonathan Schwartz plan to make the announcement during a joint appearance at the Oracle OpenWorld 2007 conference today.
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melkor
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2006-12-16

OpenOffice is one part of the equation. And yes, Driver support is 'worse' for Solaris than Linux. However - you have to look at it from Dell's point of view - they're selling Solaris on Dell computers that will be used as servers. Driver needs for servers have always been more limited than a desktop system.

From a normal desktop point of view, Linux is better than Solaris. The problem is that Linux's big inroads into the market have been via servers and corporate environments. It has made very little, if no inroads into the desktop market. If Linux can't make it in the server environment, it doesn't hold much help for the desktop market imho.

Linux has been the 'best thing since sliced bread' for a long, long while now, and in reality, this hype has not eventuated into real market share. True, not all of this is due to Linux itself, a fair share is due to anti competitive behaviour from Microsoft, and with the collusion of other large software vendors as well. Yes, I say collusion. There's no real benefit for large software vendors to port to Linux - it means another port to support, which costs a lot of money to maintain. They already make nice profits with their Windows based software, why you those profits to subsidise a Linux version?

The average person doesn't give a rats ass about Linux, sure, more people have heard of it now, but it still has a reputation for being a bitch to install, a bitch to maintain, and more importantly, their software doesn't work on it, or work well in many cases. This is a huge turn off for most ordinary computer users, and their not going to be prepared to switch to Linux because of it.

Whilst I don't have any hard figures to back me up, I think you'll find that OS X users have avalanched in the past 18 months, and that has taken a lot of potentials away from Linux. Your average person is prepared to pay their hard cash for software, if they feel the software is worth it. That removes the one real advantage (to most people) that Linux has - free as in cost. Your average person couldn't give a rats ass about 'freedoms', they look at that as a idealistic rainbow dream which is unattainable in todays age.

Dave

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

OpenOffice is one part of the equation.

Open Office is what Solaris uses, so trying to say that Solaris will do any better is a flawed argument.

However - you have to look at it from Dell's point of view - they're selling Solaris on Dell computers

They will get an option of installing Solaris, and then being palmed off to Sun for support. Like such previous deals, I'm not sure why people are going to specify Solaris to be installed unless they have some legacy need for some specific software. Most, universities in particular, left Solaris behind years ago because of poor open source software support, like Python for example, so it's funny that you mention application support elsewhere.

The problem is that Linux's big inroads into the market have been via servers and corporate environments. It has made very little, if no inroads into the desktop market.

So what is Solaris doing differently to be any better, and why?

This is a huge turn off for most ordinary computer users, and their not going to be prepared to switch to Linux because of it.

So what will make them switch to Solaris, which was your original point?

Whilst I don't have any hard figures to back me up, I think you'll find that OS X users have avalanched in the past 18 months, and that has taken a lot of potentials away from Linux.

OS X, mostly due to limited hardware supply, is pretty insignificant really. Also, how many Linux desktop users do you think there might be out there? :-

http://members.forbes.com/global/2007/1112/024a.html

"Kirk Yang, who heads Asia technology hardware research for Citigroup in Hong Kong, predicts that the company will sell at least 3 million Eee PCs next year but could easily tally 6 million. By comparison, Apple has sold 4.3 million laptops in the last four quarters."

Your average person is prepared to pay their hard cash for software, if they feel the software is worth it. That removes the one real advantage (to most people) that Linux has - free as in cost.

No actually. Why do you think that Microsoft is big on pre-installation and keeping OEMs on the broken end of a bottle rather than itemising Windows as a separate cost? Because they want to make people believe that Windows is free and comes with the PC.

Free software bypasses that OEM channel completely, which is what terrifies Microsoft so much.

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