Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Nov 2007 21:16 UTC, submitted by Wyatt Lyon Preul
.NET (dotGNU too) Scott Guthrie has announced that Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 are now available for download and provides a tour of some of the new features. "Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 contain a ton of new functionality and improvements. Below are links to blog posts I've done myself as well as links to videos you can watch to learn more about it."
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RE[4]: Looks fantastic
by neozeed on Tue 20th Nov 2007 00:06 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Looks fantastic"
neozeed
Member since:
2006-03-03

Quite frankly, I'm distinctly underwhelmed by yet another new version of .Net that no normal person can keep up with. Microsoft simply have too many MSDN lunatics producing too many development tools no sane person can keep up with.


Huh? Where have you been? It's about frameworks & developers. Windows has been a platform that people *WANT* to program for, because Microsoft is constantly going out of their way to come up with better ways to solve business problems.

Would you rather have a K&R compiler, and a VT220? Oh sure it'd be easier, but is it realistic in 2007?

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RE[5]: Looks fantastic
by modmans2ndcoming on Tue 20th Nov 2007 01:20 in reply to "RE[4]: Looks fantastic"
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2005-11-09

I agree... with out the extensive framework, implementing solutions would take a lot longer and be a lot buggier.

yeah, sometimes it is not "real" development because you are simply using tools that do the heavy lifting, but so what? is a carpenter not a real carpenter unless he/she uses a hand saw and a traditional hammer rather than a power saw and a nail gun?

Yeah, the framework is huge, but isn't that what MSDN is for? If you do not know how to do something, look it up.. you think doctors... even specialists can keep it all in their head?

the split between windows and Open Source has already lead to a specialist split. .Net will probably lead to a few more specializes... just like a rough carpenter specializes in getting the frame of a structure up fast and efficiently and a finishing carpenter focuses on putting up the trim and other small carpentry jobs, you will see specialties in development work. Sure, either carpenter can do teh work of their counterpart, but they can't do it as well or efficiently, so is true today with open source and .Net developers.

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