Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Nov 2007 21:22 UTC, submitted by irbis
Window Managers "Linux has proven amazingly flexible: after nearly 10 years of use, I'm still impressed by how the Linux operating system does exactly what I want on any type of hardware. Desktop customization is no exception; from the ultra-modern KDE and GNOME window managers to with the likes of Fluxbox and AfterStep, there's a Linux desktop to suit everyone."
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RE: -OT- RE: wm for a server?
by dagw on Tue 20th Nov 2007 11:17 UTC in reply to "-OT- RE: wm for a server?"
dagw
Member since:
2005-07-06

The same question can be asked in reverse: What can Windows on a desktop do for me, that a properly-configured Linux install won't *.

Apps. There are still plently of great apps which don't have an equal equivalent on Linux. It really is that simple.

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RE[2]: -OT- RE: wm for a server?
by lemur2 on Tue 20th Nov 2007 11:57 in reply to "RE: -OT- RE: wm for a server?"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Apps. There are still plently of great apps which don't have an equal equivalent on Linux. It really is that simple.


Myth. An element of truth some time ago, but now largely a myth serving someone's agenda.

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TLZ_ Member since:
2007-02-05

Linux has really come a long way in recent years and in some areas it might even be ahead of windows, but it's still lagging behind in some places.

For instance, Photoshop is superiour to GIMP. Both in terms of functionality, and usability. (but GIMPShop might fix this, haven't tried that yet. And I hear rumors of better GUI on the next version of GIMP as well...)

Also, numerous people run less known Windows app that are so small that nobody takes time to create a linux-equal.

However, Linux has come a long way and it's definetly getting there. Esp. Ubuntu have impressed me. In 2-3 years I might even switch. So to conclude: not there today... but really closing in.

For the record: I'm running XP... and I'll prob. never going to run Vista. I've never felt Windows as evil as people complain about, except this one. When I used it i felt like I lost control and ownership of my computer. Program files where hidden away in cryptic directories. Plus, my own program(Yup, another Notepad clone!) didn't work on it. Luckily I'm writing it to be completely .net 2.0 compliant with no unmananged code, so when Mono gets full 2.0 compability it'll be easy to get it over to Linux. ;)

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

No it isn't a myth. I know this because I experience it, and get annoyed by it. I've tried all the Linux alternatives, and despite the fact that I prefer the Linux OS, I still find myself booting into windows XP (so that I can use many apps. I honestly wish it wasn't so, since I really like using Linux.

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autumnlover Member since:
2007-04-12

Myth. An element of truth some time ago, but now largely a myth serving someone's agenda.


Imagine yourself stuck on a desert island with notebook loaded with latest Inkscape and a pile of CDs loaded with *.CDR files...

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

There are still plently of great apps which don't have an equal equivalent on Linux.


The opposite is also true. It all depends on exactly what apps you need.
There's also an ocean of bottom-of-the-barrel apps for Windows, something *nix thankfully does not have. (Seriously, how many crappy Notepad clones do we need?)

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RE[2]: -OT- RE: wm for a server?
by gilboa on Tue 20th Nov 2007 15:51 in reply to "RE: -OT- RE: wm for a server?"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

I can name a number of Linux only features that doesn't have a direct Windows equivalent.

- True multi-user. (No, fast desktop switch doesn't allow you to have two concurrent users; I use it daily)

- True virtual desktops. (Even object desktop's Virtual desktop is far from being sufficient)

- Customizable shell, composing window manager, etc. (You have it partially in Vista and in XP w/object desktop - but both cannot really compete with KDE/GNOME/E17/etc when it comes to customization.)

- Support for low end machines without sacrificing security or stability. I still use my 10 y/o PII/366/256MB laptop.

- Seamless network integration. (Nope, remote desktop is anything but seamless!)

- Cleaner security module; I don't need an on-line anti-virus/work/adware/etc tools that eat up my resources.

- Package managers keep my system up-to-date and secure. I needn't worry about multiple msvcrt DLL or, a favorite pet peeve of mine - the dbghelp.dll! *Spit*

- Free. As in beer and in speech. Nobody is forcing an expensive upgrade down my throat. (My CentOS5 machine will most likely be upgraded when the machine will die...)
... and I can continue.

To each its own. The term "desktop" means different things to different people. For -me-, gimp is just as good as Photoshop; vim+ctags+cgdb+gcc+valgrind+man is better then VS2Kx; OO 2.3 is just as good as OfficeXP/2K3; Evolution can rival Outlook; I have enough native (and wine supported) games to keep me happy and wine/IE6 works just fine on the odd site that doesn't support firefox.

But that's me.

- Gilboa

Edited 2007-11-20 15:56 UTC

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

are you actually using 100% of the available features in Photoshop? Where prefession requires a specific application then sure thing.. that decides your desktop but most people don't know 100% of Photoshop or Lightwave or AutoCAD.. For the rest of us that only use part of what those powerhouses can do, there are alternatives.

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

are you actually using 100% of the available features in Photoshop?

Nope, but if the features I do use aren't available anywhere else, it doesn't really matter. There are also cases of technically being able to duplicate a feature in another app (or collection of apps), but it being such a pain in the ass it just isn't worth it.

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