Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Nov 2007 16:46 UTC, submitted by Luis
AMD AnandTech takes a look at AMD's new Phenom. "If you were looking for a changing of the guard today it's just not going to happen. Phenom is, clock for clock, slower than Core 2 and the chips aren't yet yielding well enough to boost clock speeds above what Intel is capable of. While AMD just introduced its first 2.2GHz and 2.3GHz quad-core CPUs today, Intel previewed its first 3.2GHz quad-core chips. We were expecting Intel to retain the high end performance crown, but also expected AMD to chip away at the lower end of the quad-core market - today's launch confirms that Intel is still the king of the quad-core market."
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RE: low yields
by kaiwai on Tue 20th Nov 2007 19:11 UTC in reply to "low yields"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

There is a reason why Intel went the way they did with fusing two dual cores instead of trying to get a true quad core to market. AMD should stop worrying about marketing buzzwords and get something out that actually competes.


Their 'true quad core' competes alright but what I would question is whether the 5% competive advantage is worth the amount of money spent, market share lost and lag between the Intel release and AMD's.

Unfortunately AMD is a company run by engineers who are unwilling to acknowledge when a cool idea is not worth persuing because the benefits promised cannot offset the risks it entails taking a more complex path.

That is why Sun is offering Intel workstations and servers; they've slowly started to realise that when push comes to shove, in terms of reliability of product delivery, its better to place your bets on Intel. Its the same reason why Apple went with Intel as well.

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RE[2]: low yields
by chipace on Tue 20th Nov 2007 20:00 in reply to "RE: low yields"
chipace Member since:
2007-11-20

Unfortunately AMD is a company run by engineers who are unwilling to acknowledge when a cool idea is not worth persuing because the benefits promised cannot offset the risks it entails taking a more complex path.


The Athlon X2 didn't perform better than Intel's P4D, but that went on to be a huge success for AMD.

Phenom, for me, is about having four cores available yet paying the power price of a single core when in idle. Cool-n-quiet 2.0 has not been delivered yet, and I look forward to those power numbers. Supposedly, Barcelona and Phenom have 4 on-die PLLs and power islands to allow for this low power mode.

Also, AMD cpu motherboards are usually cheaper than Intel ones... this could affect sales.

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RE[3]: low yields
by rayiner on Wed 21st Nov 2007 00:10 in reply to "RE[2]: low yields"
rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

What are you talking about? The X2 _killed_ the P4D. It wasn't even a ballgame until Core 2 came out.

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RE[2]: low yields
by Javier O. Augusto on Tue 20th Nov 2007 20:02 in reply to "RE: low yields"
Javier O. Augusto Member since:
2005-08-10

Unfortunately AMD is a company run by engineers...

LOL!!!!

No comments...

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RE[3]: low yields
by kaiwai on Wed 21st Nov 2007 01:04 in reply to "RE[2]: low yields"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah, their marketing is working wonderfully - what was their profit last year..........?

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RE[2]: low yields
by javiercero1 on Tue 20th Nov 2007 21:42 in reply to "RE: low yields"
javiercero1 Member since:
2005-11-10

"Unfortunately AMD is a company run by engineers who are unwilling to acknowledge when a cool idea is not worth persuing because the benefits promised cannot offset the risks it entails taking a more complex path. "

Quotes like this makes me wish there was a Heisman-like trophy for Armchair Quarterbacks...

Edited 2007-11-20 21:43

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RE[3]: low yields
by kaiwai on Wed 21st Nov 2007 01:06 in reply to "RE[2]: low yields"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Quotes like this makes me wish there was a Heisman-like trophy for Armchair Quarterbacks...


How so? they designed something that was needlessly more complex than their competition, delivered it late and it is barely competitive with the Intel offering. Explain to me how that engineering decision of making something more complex than required, was a good idea given the lateness and lack of competitiveness with Intel's offerings.

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