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> looks same with Vista's default menu
i've used vista's menu, and hate it.
i've used kickoff, and i'm not on the verge of tears yet. note that kickoff actually has real world usability testing done it by actual real world usability people using actual real world desktop computer users.
that said, i'm still not happy with the application browser list (second button) yet.
What I don't like about this menu is that it's very slow to find an app you're looking for and it requires many clicks. The old one (current one) is much faster and does not requires clicking back and forth. I hope it's still a choice in KDE4.
That said, congrats for all the hard work put into this. Surely once it's actually released many things will keep improving and everyone will be happy eventually. Better to release as soon as it's usable than waiting until it's absolutely complete/stable. Then people can choose to use it or wait a bit.
i've used vista's menu, and hate it.
i've used kickoff, and i'm not on the verge of tears yet. note that kickoff actually has real world usability testing done it by actual real world usability people using actual real world desktop computer users.
1: the implicit implication that Microsoft did not do any usability testing is probably specious.
2: the more people support stuff like Kickoff with the assertion that it was created through usability testing, the more I'm likely to ignore/mistrust anything to do with usability testing.
If usability testing is so all fired important, why haven't you switched the button order in dialogs like Gnome did? FYI: I'm glad you haven't, and Gnome saying they did so on the basis of usability studies doesn't make me like their dialog button order. It doesn't make me like Kickoff either.
Your points about change are good. A lot of people tend to reflexively dislike change. So I would hope there would be some tangible benefit that outweighs provoking such dislike. I'll try to find out if that's the case for myself by trying a liveCD. Whether its the case in general for the userbase as a whole will be seen shortly. I hope it pays off.
There have been people who laud every mockup and roadplan, there have been change hating fools like me. KDE4 seems to be a bit of a gamble, and whatever happens I salute the KDE team for undertaking it.





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2005-06-29
Am I alone that dislike the menu? I haven't play with KDE, but from what I have seen in the screenshot at http://tinyurl.com/yppe9r and it looks same with Vista's default menu. I totally hate it and I think it is downgrade. The scroll in menu is making more difficult to select things in there.