Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Nov 2007 21:36 UTC, submitted by Coldfirex
SkyOS SkyOS build 6814 has been released. Among its new features are streaming support, system-wide spell checking, the Mozilla embedded Gecko engine (which is used to create a few applications like a Wikipedia reader), an updated Viewer (file manager), a new theme engine, and more.
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RE[2]: my 2cents
by MamiyaOtaru on Tue 27th Nov 2007 05:19 UTC in reply to "RE: my 2cents"
MamiyaOtaru
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2005-11-11

"Are open source projects on Windows looked upon with the same amount of scrutiny that SkyOS is given? Does Mozilla Firefox not exist in Windows? Is there no GCC in Windows?"

This comparison is not at all apt. Microsoft doesn't use Firefox to provide a browser. They don't use GCC to provide a compiler. Microsoft is not building a proprietary OS with a great many OSS building blocks.

That's what they are there for, so I have no problem with Robert doing this ;) But please use a little critical thinking and realize that OSS folks porting their stuff to a proprietary OS is not at all comparable to someone using OSS to build (or fill in the gaps if you prefer) a proprietary OS.

Microsoft would be perfectly happy without Firefox. SkyOS on the other hand would not be perfectly happy without Freetype etc. It's not the same thing. What Robert is doing doesn't bother me, but it's just not the same thing. You can't dismiss people who are annoyed by it with a comparison that doesn't fit at all.

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RE[3]: my 2cents
by umccullough on Tue 27th Nov 2007 07:52 in reply to "RE[2]: my 2cents"
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2006-01-26

This comparison is not at all apt. Microsoft doesn't use Firefox to provide a browser. They don't use GCC to provide a compiler. Microsoft is not building a proprietary OS with a great many OSS building blocks.

In fact, the more accurate comparison would be Apple and OS X... there's GCC, Darwin, KHTML, CUPS?, etc... (I don't use it, so I'm sure there are other technologies)

Of course, Apple arguably contributes back to these projects as well, just as Robert and SkyOS does.

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RE[3]: my 2cents
by Nelson on Tue 27th Nov 2007 10:51 in reply to "RE[2]: my 2cents"
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2005-11-29

So you don't believe that this is a principle of free software? The freedom to do with it what I choose?

Is there going to be a line drawn where I can and cannot enjoy free software because of the licensing terms of the host operating systems? Even when it does nothing more but stand at a disagreement with a few people who hold their cookies a little too tight?

I personally would jump at the fact that these technologies are being embraced, and the wheel is not being reinvented with other proprietary technologies.

Isn't everyone always bellyaching that Microsoft reinvents the wheel with things like OOXML instead of ODF?

What's the issue in embracing and implementing an open source technology?

It's the exact same thing, the only reason SkyOS at this time would not function without these technologies is because it's in it's infancy.

It's naive to think that it's impossible to implement other, closed solutions. The open source path was just more elegant, and developer friendly. I'm sure with time alternatives will pop up.

That's besides the point however, the point is that the same bunch of people who take such pride in open source technology are now annoyed because they disagree with the licensing terms of the host operating system.

I think theres a point you reach before it becomes fanaticism, and it's been reached. A while ago.

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RE[4]: my 2cents
by DigitalAxis on Wed 28th Nov 2007 01:39 in reply to "RE[3]: my 2cents"
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2005-08-28

Well, I'm interested because it's a completely new operating system (in the sense that it's not based on UNIX, AmigaOS, Windows, BeOS, Psion, PalmOS, VMS, CP/M...) and it's one of those hobbyist things that you wouldn't think possible these days.

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