Linked by David Adams on Tue 4th Dec 2007 19:39 UTC, submitted by michuk
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "It may be a brave opinion but I predict that Ubuntu Linux and Windows Vista are going to be the two operating systems that will take over the largest chunk of the desktop OS market during the next couple of years. This comparison is based on my experience with both systems during the last couple of weeks on two different computers."
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RE[2]: Can't agree witth...
by antwarrior on Tue 4th Dec 2007 23:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Can't agree witth..."
antwarrior
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2006-02-11

your post should have come with a warning "FUD!!!".
sorry UD Uncertainty and Doubt , but no Fear. I am sure others have jumped to shoot down certain myths and assumptions about Linux.

1." On linux, you install it once, and its up-to-date forever. "

No, it's old until your distro updates/upgrades and even then it's STILL old ! ( you have getdeb.net for Ubuntu - which can sometimes be a lifesaver, but not often )


2." On linux, every piece of software you install is checked on stability and security before it entered the software repository you use"

How might I ask, by the package maintainer? right... because that's what they do, they check the code for malicious intent... nah mate !


3. "no bugs will ever be fixed, you will have a hard time getting your data out of the proprietary fileformats into some other app"

Would you like to give examples. and if a linux coder quits, youre stuck with your data in propriety /non standard formats until someone else picks up the project, which doesn't happen very often - take a look at sf.net , vaporware central. ( e.g take graphics software , if gimp suddenly stopped, you are at the mercy of the goodwill of programmers who would want to convert your gimp project to another app ... come on!!!)

I think the worst we can do to potential users is to oversell Linux on things that it doesn't necessarily do. Linux is a good thing, but it is not the pancea for all computing woes, it never will be... it can't be ,can it?

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RE[3]: Can't agree witth...
by lemur2 on Tue 4th Dec 2007 23:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Can't agree witth..."
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2007-02-17

No, it's old until your distro updates/upgrades and even then it's STILL old ! ( you have getdeb.net for Ubuntu - which can sometimes be a lifesaver, but not often )


Typically, software on Windows systems is far older (and updated less often) than software on Linux systems.

Even with Ubuntu, there is always "change the repositories to the newer release name, then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade". That will keep any Ubuntu system far, far "fresher" than any Windows system out there.

How might I ask, by the package maintainer? right... because that's what they do, they check the code for malicious intent... nah mate !


The mechanism is as follows:
There are the approximate equivalent of 1.5 million full-time FOSS developers working right now on open source software. They can all read all of the code and see if it contains malicious intent ... and they end up using that software themselves. Package maintainers (and many, many end users) verify that the source code that the developers are seeing and using produces the binaries that are placed into repositories ... this is auditable.

Ergo ... there is nothing malicious in any code you install from a FOSS repository. Guaranteed.

if gimp suddenly stopped, you are at the mercy of the goodwill of programmers who would want to convert your gimp project to another app


gimp does not use proprietary, closed formats. Edit your files in another raster graphics editor application if you want to ... such as krita.
http://www.koffice.org/krita/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krita

In any event ... you have the source code for gimp ... how can you be at anyone's mercy? You could get it compiled for any platform you want ... and away you go at its current capability level. There is just no way that any of your data is at anyone's mercy ... if you have the source code for the application that manipulates that data.

http://www.gimp.org/windows/

Edited 2007-12-04 23:52

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