Eclipse is an open source community focused on developing a universal platform of frameworks and tools that make it easy and cost-effective to build and deploy software. This article gives you information about the latest version of Eclipse, and a guide to some of the most interesting Eclipse projects. Learn what Eclipse is good for, why it is important, how you can get started, and where to learn more about it.
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2005-11-02 9:41 pmAnonymous
Feel free to try Eclipse–its in Universe.
And the download page is working fine from Firefox 1.0.7 on Ubuntu. http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php
2005-11-02 9:48 pmAnonymous
Not sure if you’re using the link you actually posted – your link contained a greater than character on the end of it – but the correct download page at http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php works for me.
Getting in my freakin’ way.
I hate that bloated piece of crap.
Oh, and on OS X (my laptop I tried it on at home) it looks like someone ate a bunch of multi-colored fisher price toys and crapped on my LCD. It’s fugly.
2005-11-02 11:18 pmAnonymous
Once you are used to programming with eclipse, you can be amazingly productive. Eclipse has the best refactoring on capabilities on the planet.
2005-11-03 6:10 amAnonymous
Absolutely. I recently took the leap from refactoring my own classes as they are in the development stage to refactoring some of the more poorly planned and painful to use portions of my company’s codebase… and I am friggen loving it. The look on my coworker’s face when I told him I cleaned up one of our crappier APIs that gets used EVERYWHERE was priceless.
“You went through and changed ALL the places that use that code???”
“Nah man, I refactored that biatch and synchronized. Eclipse yo.”
2005-11-02 11:38 pmfscotsman
It’s good at hogging memory.
2005-11-03 8:20 ambutters
Apparently, absolutely everything. Everything from email clients, word processors, and entire desktop environments have been developed from the Eclipse framework. IBM sees Eclipse as the third coming of the application platform. First there was the operating system, then the browser, and finally Eclipse.
But that’s crazy talk, of course.
2005-11-03 9:22 amAnonymous
Yeah, it’s sort of the new Emacs.
It’s NOT fugly, and I hate it when people make that subjective judgement call. YOU may think it’s fugly, but I happen to like the pretty colors and sloping tabs and what not. Don’t get me wrong, I used vi (before there was vim) and the command line to create tons of code, I’m old-school, but I still like the way it looks. SOME may find it fugly, but others (like me) like the way it looks a lot.
However, that’s really of secondary importance, it can be slow on a minimal machine, but on a relatively new machine it works just fine and I love all the plugin’s. Check out http://www.radrails.org, it’s awesome for Ruby-on-Rails devel, and RDT for “plain-ruby” development. I don’t know about you all but having RI, the debugger, and a task master all in one place really does help productivity for me.
2005-11-03 9:27 amAnonymous
It kinda looks like I was saying you were saying it was fugly, I just kinda rolled both replies into one. The fugly comment I was referring to was from bryanv.
I also forgot to mention the team synchronization via CVS or Subversion and the way this tool allows you to avoid vendor lockin ala Visual Studio… and …
The first time I installed Eclipse, I didn’t get it. It seemed like a regular text editor, but bloated and slow. Then I saw some really nice screenshots using different plugins? tools? frameworks??? that you can customize it with.
Unfortunately there’s no support/integration for NASM, my language of choice. It seemed like a huge hassle to consider developing my own plugins just to get a nice programming environment. So I’m still with UltraEdit, which integrates with my toolset reasonably well.
I used both eclipse and netbeans for a while, and though I like more swing over SWT, I went for eclipse finally. Its mix of incremental compiler, hotkey formating and hotkey organize imports are dificult to beat. Now netbeans comes to the battle with its new matisse GUI designer, the eclipse people from VE say they will keep improving their visual andling of the classic GridBagLayout, they say they can get everything matisse has whithout need for a new layout. So I will wait and see what happens next.
By the way, I never managed to get eclipse use XP theming, it always shows with Windows 2000 controls. Does anyone know if I need to customize eclipse or SWT somewhere? It is weird that a library made to use native controls in java shows up using legacy controls.
But since it isn’t in the Ubuntu repos, and the download page <http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php> is totally broken (just displays what should be the nav side menu across the entire page, in Firefox 1.0.7 on Windows and Linux)…I guess I’ll have to find something else.
Edited 2005-11-02 21:12