Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 7th Dec 2007 06:25 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Qt Jambi ships as a single Java library, or JAR (Java Archive) file, plus a handful of tools, including an interface layout and design tool, and an Eclipse plug-in. Trolltech uses its vaunted Qt C++ library as the GUI engine and puts Java wrappers around it. This approach uses the JNI (Java Native Interface) to call the necessary functions from Java. More here.
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RE[9]: Unconvinced
by mikeurbandz on Fri 7th Dec 2007 20:27 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Unconvinced"
mikeurbandz
Member since:
2007-10-29

> Adobes apps do not look native on Windows or Mac,
> they have custom UIs (despite HIGs)

This is a relatively recent trend though. It used to be that most productivity applications did follow the HIG.

> Microsofts Office Mac software is very un mac-like.

Well, actually, MS Office for Mac did a pretty good job of following the Mac HIG guidelines. Believe it or not, it's actually Apple that isn't following their own guidelines. Apple's HIG, for example, said that the brushed metal look and feel was only supposed to be used on applications intended to emulate physical devices, such as media players. But then Apple quickly started violating their own HIG by using the brushed metal look and feel for everything they wrote.

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RE[10]: Unconvinced
by leos on Fri 7th Dec 2007 20:58 in reply to "RE[9]: Unconvinced"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

This is a relatively recent trend though. It used to be that most productivity applications did follow the HIG.


Recent or not (major apps have been skinned for a LONG time) that is the reality.

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RE[10]: Unconvinced
by Chicken Blood on Sat 8th Dec 2007 00:42 in reply to "RE[9]: Unconvinced"
Chicken Blood Member since:
2005-12-21


This is a relatively recent trend though. It used to be that most productivity applications did follow the HIG.

Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Acrobat, Director have had non-standard UIs for as long as I can remember (at least 9 years)

[q]Well, actually, MS Office for Mac did a pretty good job of following the Mac HIG guidelines


'Pretty good' is subjective. MS use their own fonts, printing infrastructure, preferences panel, dialog style, etc. It's not what I would call 'pretty good'.

. Believe it or not, it's actually Apple that isn't following their own guidelines. Apple's HIG, for example, said that the brushed metal look and feel was only supposed to be used on applications intended to emulate physical devices, such as media players. But then Apple quickly started violating their own HIG by using the brushed metal look and feel for everything they wrote.


The metal look-and-feel thing is a frequently cited
argument to say that Apple don't support their HIG, unfortunately, there are 100s of other pages in the Apple HIG that suggest otherwise, but yes the metal-thing does offer a cheap target. Unfortunately, since Leopard, this is no-longer even true.

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