Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 26th Dec 2007 09:50 UTC
Gnome There is a controversy in the Linux world. It doesn't have to do with Microsoft, or anything overtly technical. It may seem, to the outsider, the open source equivalent of the question, "Boxers or briefs?" But it's much more serious than that. More here.
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RE[4]: not just Linux
by apoclypse on Wed 26th Dec 2007 20:51 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: not just Linux"
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2007-02-17

Your analogies about KDE and Gnome are pretty accurate.

When Gnome went 2.0 they consciously made an effort not to try to reinvent the wheel for everything. They wanted gnome to be exactly what it is today, a dekstop environment. They didn't want to make a desktop environment/distro. In other words, they avoided writing apps that a third party could write themselves, but decided to focus their attention to apps that are essential to the desktop experience, one where tight integration is a must, anything else would be handled by the distromakers. I think that is the right choice. Think of Gnome as plain old windows without all the OEM crap installed, and the distro as the OEM who adds functionality to the desktop. KDE has a lot of projects under its wing and while you don't have to install all of them, its usually encouraged for a KDE distro.

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RE[5]: not just Linux
by neowolf on Wed 26th Dec 2007 21:39 in reply to "RE[4]: not just Linux"
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2005-07-06

In other words, they avoided writing apps that a third party could write themselves, but decided to focus their attention to apps that are essential to the desktop experience, one where tight integration is a must, anything else would be handled by the distromakers.

While KDE definitely bundles more software than GNOME, some of this seems to simply just be a matter of time. Both bundle web browsers, full featured email suites, video players, music players, CD burning software. They're both trying to deliver the same thing. A complete desktop environment. They simply differ in their approach.

Personally I love and hate this, as while I love choice, I have too much positive and negative to say about both making it difficult to choose!

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RE[6]: not just Linux
by KugelKurt on Thu 27th Dec 2007 21:16 in reply to "RE[5]: not just Linux"
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2005-07-06

KDE doesn't bundle software. The packager does. There's lot's of software written within the KDE community, but most of it is optional. I don't have to install KPDF, I don't have to install Kopete, I don't have to install Amarok, etc. These are all separate packages at least on (K)Ubuntu and openSUSE.
Usually distributors define meta-packages like "kubuntu-desktop" on (K)Ubuntu that install many apps in one go, but kubuntu-desktop != KDE just like the ububtu-desktop package is not identical to GNOME.

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