Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Jan 2008 20:47 UTC
KDE KDE's Aaron Seigo (who owes me a Martini) wrote about a few often-heard misconceptions and questions regarding KDE 4.0, which is supposed to be released January 11th. "Now that 4.0.0 is tagged and out and that bit of worry and concern is behind me for the moment, I wanted to take a moment to talk really bluntly about 4.0. In particular, I'm going to address some of the common memes in fairly random order that I see about kde 3.5 and 4.0. I'm going to speak bluntly (though not rudely) so prepare yourself."
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RE: re: kde 4 in distributions
by KAMiKAZOW on Sat 5th Jan 2008 01:28 UTC in reply to "re: kde 4 in distributions"
KAMiKAZOW
Member since:
2005-07-06

the vast majority of distributions seem to be avoiding KDE 4, thinking that it's not ready for mass use.

Because that's what even core KDE developers say.


Furthermore, since probably 80% of Linux users use either Ubuntu or Fedora (rough guess here, could be wrong, there's no hard way to prove an actual figure)

The eeePC is a huge seller. It's KDE-based.


Even Suse, which once reliably used KDE has been moving more and more to Gnome.

SUSE Enterprise: yes. openSUSE: No.


I wish IBM would buy trolltech and then release all the QT code under the GPL as an act of good will.

Qt is already GPLed -- since years.

Now - same I'm on dialup (which I am). I get Ubuntu given to me, but I like KDE, rather than Gnome. Do you realise how LONG it will take for me to download and install KDE?

https://shipit.kubuntu.org/

And no, Kubuntu doesn't cut it - it's a pile of horse manure as far as I'm concerned

And how is downloading KDE from within Ubuntu any different than using Kubuntu directly? The packages are the same. There's no difference.

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grat Member since:
2006-02-02

And how is downloading KDE from within Ubuntu any different than using Kubuntu directly? The packages are the same. There's no difference.

For the Feisty release, my experience was that a system installed from the Kubuntu LiveCD was fairly unstable, whereas a system installed from the Ubuntu LiveCD, and with the kubuntu-desktop package added, was rock solid.

I had no explanation then, nor do I offer one now, but my personal experience (and someone else who agreed with me, I think on this forum) was that Kubuntu != (Ubuntu + KDE).

Just a side observation. ;)

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KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

I can't explain your observations. I don't think that you are hallucinating so there must be something right about your observations, but for me it worked OK.
It could be that you hit a bug in the installer. AFAIK there's also a text-based installer on the CD.

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melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

Amen, that is my experience.

Dave

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antwarrior Member since:
2006-02-11

"...I wish IBM would buy trolltech and then release all the QT code under the GPL as an act of good will.
Qt is already GPLed -- since years.... "

Just to point out that,this would probably kill the project's momentum. QT is good because it is a commercial tool kit. It's one of the best ones out there. The commercial incentive ( coupled with the drive for putting good quality software out there ) drives this particular project forward.

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