Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 5th Jan 2008 04:08 UTC
Multimedia, AV While this might be a bold statement, all things point to this. Blu-Ray was already winning in market share slowly but surely, and today's Warner decision to go BD-only puts the final nails into this HD format war as Warner is the biggest movie distributor. The HD-DVD Group didn't seem to know about Warner's decision and they canceled their CES conference out of the blu tonight, amidst making vague references to possible legal action. My take: I wish Blu-Ray had a region-free policy like HD-DVD does. Living in USA today but one day moving to Europe, it will have an impact in my media library.
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ba1l
Member since:
2007-09-08

I think you have your facts backwards.

For both BluRay and HD-DVD, there are three supported video codecs. MPEG-2, MPEG-4 AVC, and Microsoft's VC-1.

Most earlier BluRay titles used MPEG-2, but newer BluRay titles and virtually all HD-DVD titles use VC-1.

In terms of audio, both formats support AC-3, DTS and LPCM, the same as DVDs. HD-DVD requires support for several more advanced audio codecs, including two high-quality lossess variants, while those same formats are optional on BluRay. Even so, both disc formats support the same audio codecs.

Also, there was no "group developing the 2nd generation DVD". There were two separate efforts, one by Sony and one by Toshiba. The DVD Forum, who maintain the original DVD spec, also maintain the HD-DVD spec, so HD-DVD is actually the "official" successor to DVDs. BluRay exists because Sony and several associated companies weren't happy with the DVD Forum's control of the DVD format, and wanted to control the replacement themselves.

The interactivity stuff on HD-DVDs was developed by Microsoft, not Toshiba.

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Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

Well said. The two formats are almost identical, with Blu-Ray only having some edges in storage etc, while HD-DVD is region-free. But as I said, overall for the casual viewer, the two formats are pretty much identical. There's no "better and worse", neither Microsoft is "bad at codecs". This was simply a strategic war, not a technology one.

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dopey Member since:
2006-08-04

Ive got a ps3, which is completely region free (x360 isnt), Looking at some of the films I have:

1. Casino Royale Blu Ray, On the back says all regions aka region free (a,b,c are different regions)
2. Resident Evil Apocalypse all regions (aka region free)
3. Click (Adam Sandler) region B only.

So I guess, Blu ray as a media/medium is region free. The region lock in is probably to do with the distributor.

check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

.. Just found out hd-dvd capable of 17x3 layers == 51 Gigs. Although currently 34G, I guess (dual layer)

BD == 25x2 no triple layer disks talked about so max 50 Gigs but on two layers. Is a third layer possible? that would make storage 75G per disk, which is huge really.

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tryphcycle Member since:
2006-02-16

"This was simply a strategic war, not a technology one"

very true! so.... personally, i am happy to see MS loose yet another battle!

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Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

BluRay exists because Sony and several associated companies

If by "several associated companies", you mean everyone except Toshiba and NEC, then you are correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association

P.S. Sony and everyone else on the Blu-Ray Disc Association are also members of the DVD Forum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Forum

Looks like you ought to do a little fact-checking yourself....

Edited 2008-01-06 15:56 UTC

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