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GNU, GPL, Open Source "Operating systems come with cultures as much as codebases. I was forcibly reminded of this fact over the holidays when several family members and neighbors press-ganged me into troubleshooting their Windows computers. Although none of us had any formal computer training, and I know almost nothing about Windows, I was able to solve problems that baffled the others - not because of any technical brilliance, but because the free software culture in which I spend my days made me better able to cope."
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geeks vs 9-5'ers
by TechGeek on Mon 14th Jan 2008 03:07 UTC
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2006-01-14

Working at a university I see a lot of trends that people talk about. Its easy to spot these when you have seen thousands of students cycle through your program. The attitude that Open Source users are more capable looks like its true on the surface. But its just an illusion. The real problem is that there are two types of IT people, as I like to label them, the geeks and the 9to5'ers.

We have students who just went in to IT because they thought it would be a good career. These are the 9to5'ers. They do the minimum learning to skate by. And nothing is easier to look good at running than Windows. Thats not to say it IS that easy to do well, but with a little knowledge its pretty easy to look like you know what your doing. These people don't touch linux or unix because it requires a lot more effort to learn it to any degree of proficiency.

Then we have the true geeks. They would be doing this no matter how much it paid. They are the type of people that just think about technology all the time. These people put in whatever effort is necessary to learn whatever they want. Some of these people end up in Open Source. Some stay in Windows. Either way they are experts at what they do and know a scary amount of stuff.

I know many 9to5'ers who pretend to be Windows admins. I dont know any 9to5'ers who pretend to be Linux admins.

RE: geeks vs 9-5'ers
by Tuishimi on Mon 14th Jan 2008 04:29 in reply to "geeks vs 9-5'ers"
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2005-07-06

Nahh. TRUE geeks used the command line only on early versions of VAX/VMS, non-geeks used ALL-IN-1. ;)

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RE[2]: geeks vs 9-5'ers
by hibridmatthias on Mon 14th Jan 2008 21:02 in reply to "RE: geeks vs 9-5'ers"
hibridmatthias Member since:
2007-04-11

No, true geeks crack open the case and move bits with their pocket magnets and tiny flashlights
:-)

Edited 2008-01-14 21:13 UTC

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RE: geeks vs 9-5'ers
by desNotes on Mon 14th Jan 2008 21:23 in reply to "geeks vs 9-5'ers"
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2006-05-26

As someone who is over 50 and did not officially become a paid geek until my late 30's I can say that I have observed the "geeks vs. 9-5 'ers" in all professions. There are those people who come in and do their job blindly and there are others who actually take an interest in what they and the company is doing. I realize that working at McDonalds, et al may not be exciting but I guess I have been lucky. My first job with computers was inspecting 40 lb disk drives that held 20 MB and 1/2 inch tape drives for backup.

I haven't always enjoyed my jobs but I always found something there that was at least mildly fascinating. Of course once I became a software developer and a full fledged geek, I am at nirvana.

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