Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Jan 2008 14:34 UTC, submitted by BluenoseJake
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RE: Hope this helps...
by Adam S on Wed 16th Jan 2008 15:39 UTC in reply to "Hope this helps..."
Adam S
Member since:
2005-04-01

Because almost every administrative or developer app written in Java is trashy looking and limited in OS integration.

Ever used the Citrix admin console? It's a nightmare, right click doesn't work as expected, you can't type and watch the cursor and focus go to where your highlight has moved. If you remember Novell Netware, the nwadmin.exe was awesome, but their own java-based Console One was ugly and weird. I'm not even touching on eclipse.

I know it doesn't seem to make sense, but I think Java would make headway if there were more native interface apps.

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RE[2]: Hope this helps...
by CharAznable on Wed 16th Jan 2008 15:49 in reply to "RE: Hope this helps..."
CharAznable Member since:
2005-07-06

Those considerations are true, but irrelevant for server-side Java. I wish setting up a Java web app environment was as easy and accessible as setting up a LAMP server.

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RE[2]: Hope this helps...
by edmnc on Wed 16th Jan 2008 16:08 in reply to "RE: Hope this helps..."
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2006-02-21

I'm not even touching on eclipse.


Whats wrong with eclipse? I like it both on Ubuntu and Windows (XP and Vista)

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RE[2]: Hope this helps...
by Touvan on Wed 16th Jan 2008 16:25 in reply to "RE: Hope this helps..."
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2006-09-01

I don't know, I rather like(d) Azureus (don't get me started on Vuze), and think Eclipse works as expected on both Windows and Ubuntu (they feel native on both). Similar arguments are made about other cross platform GUI toolkits, like GTK (Pidgin - feels native on Windows and of course is native on Ubuntu), and some of Mono. I didn't even know that Banshee and F-Spot were running on Mono at first - both very nice apps - especially F-Spot.

Sun does need to figure out how to help their developers choose the appropriate tool kits though. These good apps do seem to be the exception rather than the rule.

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RE[3]: Hope this helps...
by pinky on Wed 16th Jan 2008 16:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Hope this helps..."
pinky Member since:
2005-07-15

>I didn't even know that Banshee and F-Spot were running on Mono at first - both very nice apps - especially F-Spot.

That's because they use Gtk#.
This is not a question about the platform/language but about the toolkit. If you would use java-gnome instead of the other java toolkits your java app would look native on GNOME too and the same is true for the Qt Java bindings and KDE.

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RE[3]: Hope this helps...
by CharAznable on Wed 16th Jan 2008 17:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Hope this helps..."
CharAznable Member since:
2005-07-06

That's because Azureus and Eclipse use SWT, which is the first Java toolkit that doesn't look like total ass. It's also rather nice to work with.

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RE[2]: Hope this helps...
by sorpigal on Thu 17th Jan 2008 23:25 in reply to "RE: Hope this helps..."
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

ConsoleOne was merely half-finished. Its javaness had less to do with its unsuitability than Novell's lack of focus.

NWAdmin did everything, except some things you did from the console. ConsoleOne, intended to replace nwadmin, did some things, but not the things done from iManager, and some things done from the console, or some things still easiest to do in nwadmin. iManager didn't do much, except for the areas where it did everything.

Novell kept starting towards making a universal, standard config tool, stopping half way and starting again.

I firmly believe that c1 was the right way to go, if only they would *finished* the damn thing. You can pine for nwadmin all you want but the reality is that it had too many weirdly-behaving widgets to really feel native and was never very stable.

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