Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Jan 2008 21:17 UTC, submitted by Francis Kuntz
Mac OS X One of the three authors of Sun's DTrace, Adam Leventhal, has discovered something very interesting using DTrace on Mac OS X. "As has been thoroughly recorded, Apple has included DTrace in Mac OS X. I've been using it as often as I have the opportunity, and it's a joy to be able to use the fruits of our labor on another operating system. But I hit a rather surprising case recently which led me to discover a serious problem with Apple's implementation." So, what is this problem? "Wow. So Apple is explicitly preventing DTrace from examining or recording data for processes which don't permit tracing. This is antithetical to the notion of systemic tracing, antithetical to the goals of DTrace, and antithetical to the spirit of open source. I'm sure this was inserted under pressure from ISVs, but that makes the pill no easier to swallow. To say that Apple has crippled DTrace on Mac OS X would be a bit alarmist, but they've certainly undermined its efficacy and, in doing do, unintentionally damaged some of its most basic functionality. To users of Mac OS X and of DTrace: Apple has done a service by porting DTrace, but let's convince them to go one step further and port it properly."
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RE: iTunes
by Wintermute on Sat 19th Jan 2008 22:18 UTC in reply to "iTunes"
Wintermute
Member since:
2005-07-30

And what's wrong with iPhone hacking? Why are you even forced to use a media player to use your phone? You paid for the damn phone, this is means you can do with it whatever you like.

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RE[2]: iTunes
by tyrione on Sat 19th Jan 2008 23:43 in reply to "RE: iTunes"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Right, and you have a license to use the Software/Operating System under the terms you signed with AT&T. To be more clear, you agreed to every part of the EULA that this entails. Since we are discussing Software, you either think it's not enforceable by crippling it to prevent unauthorized code modification or you think they don't have a right to do so, because you paid for the phone. You paid for the service which includes the phone.

I don't have a problem with people hacking and violating their EULA and other legal agreements. I have a problem with people complaining that their warranties are voided and if they brick it they should get support from Apple to fix it.

Grow up.

Edited 2008-01-19 23:47 UTC

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RE[2]: iTunes
by jessta on Sat 19th Jan 2008 23:49 in reply to "RE: iTunes"
jessta Member since:
2005-08-17

And what's wrong with iPhone hacking? Why are you even forced to use a media player to use your phone? You paid for the damn phone, this is means you can do with it whatever you like.

You didn't pay for the phone, You paid for a license to use the phone. So you can only use the phone in the ways specified in the license that you agreed to.

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RE[3]: iTunes
by Ford Prefect on Sun 20th Jan 2008 00:04 in reply to "RE[2]: iTunes"
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

I can't believe regular people even back this bullshit.

Everyone who bought an iPhone bought a piece of hardware. Since then it's his/her hardware and (s)he can do whatever pleased to.

If you want to cripple yourself with nasty licensing deals, do so. But let me tell you, there are also countries out there where users are protected from this kind of business. In Germany nobody can legally be held back from using the device in any thinkable way.

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RE[3]: iTunes
by Luminair on Sun 20th Jan 2008 01:57 in reply to "RE[2]: iTunes"
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

"And what's wrong with iPhone hacking? Why are you even forced to use a media player to use your phone? You paid for the damn phone, this is means you can do with it whatever you like.

You didn't pay for the phone, You paid for a license to use the phone. So you can only use the phone in the ways specified in the license that you agreed to.
"

This is sarcasm. (right?)

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RE[3]: iTunes
by Soulbender on Mon 21st Jan 2008 09:53 in reply to "RE[2]: iTunes"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

So you can only use the phone in the ways specified in the license that you agreed to.


That's not universally true. In many (most?) countries you can use the phone in any way you like as long as you're within the law. Apple have no say with regards to what you do with the device after you bought it. It's like Ford could stipulate that you could only drive their cars on certain roads or use certain motor oils. You might void your warranty by hacking the iphone but it is in no way illegal or a breach of contract.

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