Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 30th Jan 2008 23:30 UTC, submitted by obsethryl
OSNews, Generic OSes "C# has been a language with a mixed history but precise goals. Although the C# language definition is for some time an ISO standard, only a part of the Base Class Library, which contains the fundamental functions that are used by all C# programs (IO, User Interface, Web services, etc) is also standardized. Parts of the BCL have been patented by Microsoft, but that has not deterred developers from attempts at implementing the components that are standardized, in various forms (Mono and affiliated projects). What happens when you go beyond that? What happens when outside the language, you start to implement not a mere application platform, but an entire operating system around it? Brace yourselves, because there is not only Microsoft Research who has done this with Singularity, but at least two other projects doing the same; and they are doing this under opensource terms. A system based around a C# Kernel. In this article, we are looking at one of the two, Cosmos by asking Scott Balmos and Chad Hower about the project they are involved in."
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RE[3]: .Not
by google_ninja on Thu 31st Jan 2008 21:14 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: .Not"
google_ninja
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2006-02-05

I am not trolling. C was a great language in its time, C++ was a hack that kinda brought it up to date, but both are very niche languages nowadays. What managed languages give in stability and security more then makes up for the relatively minor hit taken in performance, especially on todays systems.

It is the same shift that happened years ago from ASM to C. Eventually machines hit a point where it is almost universally a better choice to have the compiler take care of certain kinds of things for you.

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RE[4]: .Not
by tomcat on Fri 1st Feb 2008 07:38 in reply to "RE[3]: .Not"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

I am not trolling. C was a great language in its time, C++ was a hack that kinda brought it up to date, but both are very niche languages nowadays. What managed languages give in stability and security more then makes up for the relatively minor hit taken in performance, especially on todays systems. It is the same shift that happened years ago from ASM to C. Eventually machines hit a point where it is almost universally a better choice to have the compiler take care of certain kinds of things for you.


It depends. "The relatively minor hit taken in performance" is highly subjective and, in some cases, unacceptable for some applications. But it depends entirely on the scenario and, in most cases, managed languages are adequate.

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RE[5]: .Not
by fury on Sat 2nd Feb 2008 08:31 in reply to "RE[4]: .Not"
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2005-09-23

It depends. "The relatively minor hit taken in performance" is highly subjective and, in some cases, unacceptable for some applications. But it depends entirely on the scenario and, in most cases, managed languages are adequate.


Actually, projects like SharpOS and Cosmos are aiming to use software-isolated processes to *increase* performance, especially the performance of context switching between kernels, drivers, and applications. And from all of the performance testing I've seen, C# is roughly equivalent in speed to C++ code.

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