Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Feb 2008 19:36 UTC, submitted by CIozzio
Mac OS X "Apple recently released its second update to OS X 'Leopard', and the latest version of its shiny operating system is now numbered 10.5.2. When I reviewed Leopard two days after its initial release I called it the best operating system ever made for the vast majority of users. I think that's even more true now that 10.5.2 fixes some of the first-release glitches that annoyed me in 10.5 and in Apple's first, quick, bug-fix update 10.5.1."
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To all Apple fanboys
by asdx24 on Fri 15th Feb 2008 22:08 UTC
asdx24
Member since:
2007-05-17

Apple shamelessly steals design ideas from the Germans.

And then every Apple fanboy always says how innovative Apple products are.

http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-...

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RE: To all Apple fanboys
by KugelKurt on Fri 15th Feb 2008 22:18 in reply to "To all Apple fanboys"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple shamelessly steals design ideas from the Germans.

Nonono, you are getting it wrong. It's not the designs, but the product names: http://ormset.no/wordpress/?p=152


;)

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RE: To all Apple fanboys
by Kroc on Fri 15th Feb 2008 22:19 in reply to "To all Apple fanboys"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Great artists steal.
The whole Internet operates on borrowing ideas from other people's designs and code and applying new personality to it; and you know what - it works. "To move forward, you have to push from where the other guy left off". "Standing on the shoulders of giants"... life operates this way, and not everybody gets it right because their heart is not in the right place (design is art, not profit).

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RE[2]: To all Apple fanboys
by tomcat on Sat 16th Feb 2008 03:59 in reply to "RE: To all Apple fanboys"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Great artists steal. The whole Internet operates on borrowing ideas from other people's designs and code and applying new personality to it; and you know what - it works. "To move forward, you have to push from where the other guy left off". "Standing on the shoulders of giants"... life operates this way, and not everybody gets it right because their heart is not in the right place (design is art, not profit).


The issue isn't the theft, itself, since nearly everything is derivative in some way; rather, it's the unflagging denial by fanboys that Apple steals...

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RE: To all Apple fanboys
by SlackerJack on Fri 15th Feb 2008 22:55 in reply to "To all Apple fanboys"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

It's a know fact that people when designing look for ideas in other things, like objects, shapes and other products. I find it funny Apple's screen design was compared to speaker, since alot of design are based off things we may have seen in the past or old designs with a modern shape.

I don't see many other manufactures coming up with ideas like Apple, in fact they are falling over themselves to copy and imitate them.

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RE: To all Apple fanboys
by tyrione on Fri 15th Feb 2008 22:59 in reply to "To all Apple fanboys"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Apple shamelessly steals design ideas from the Germans.

And then every Apple fanboy always says how innovative Apple products are.

http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-...


If you think Braun didn't steal any ideas from other designers you'd be sorely mistaken.

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RE[2]: To all Apple fanboys
by KugelKurt on Sat 16th Feb 2008 14:25 in reply to "RE: To all Apple fanboys"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Ideas can't be stolen, just copied. "Stealing" of ideas is just propaganda by intellectual property advocates.

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RE: To all Apple fanboys
by thavith_osn on Sat 16th Feb 2008 00:02 in reply to "To all Apple fanboys"
thavith_osn Member since:
2005-07-11

Braun and Apple, lol... That was funny... Similarities, yes, copy, don't think so (well, in most of the examples, maybe some)...

I'm sure all designers copy from a wide range of influences, but Dieter might be one of many...

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RE: To all Apple fanboys
by sbergman27 on Sat 16th Feb 2008 00:10 in reply to "To all Apple fanboys"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Apple shamelessly steals design ideas from the Germans


Geez! I'm not an Apple fan. But this ongoing chatter about allowing good ideas to circulate being, somehow, a bad thing, is just brain-dead stupid.

This industry is about as innovative as any. And it's still about 1% revolution and 99% evolution.

Rejecting ideas because they were first developed by a competitor is the surest recipe for failue. It doesn't do you any good. It doesn't do the people of the earth any good. It probably does your competitor some good, though. Because you can bet that they are ready to reimplement, and enhance, any original ideas *you* might have.

Why fight bad patents if compaies just voluntarily refrain from using good ideas that happen to have been developed by other companies first?

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RE[2]: To all Apple fanboys
by tomcat on Sat 16th Feb 2008 04:03 in reply to "RE: To all Apple fanboys"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Rejecting ideas because they were first developed by a competitor is the surest recipe for failue. It doesn't do you any good. It doesn't do the people of the earth any good. It probably does your competitor some good, though. Because you can bet that they are ready to reimplement, and enhance, any original ideas *you* might have.


Totally agree. Quite often, copying gives a subsequent competitor an advantage, since they don't have to invest time and money in determining what works and what doesn't; or, alternatively, they can improve upon a useful idea and make it better.

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RE: To all Apple fanboys
by tryphcycle on Mon 18th Feb 2008 20:00 in reply to "To all Apple fanboys"
tryphcycle Member since:
2006-02-16

i bet it just BURNS you up seeing apple's market share growing like it is! HAHAHAHAHHHAHAAA!

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