Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 2nd Mar 2008 01:47 UTC, submitted by AdamW
The fourth pre-release of Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring is here. This pre-release includes the all-new artwork for the 2008 Spring release, further improvements to the Mandriva software management tools, WPA-EAP support in the network configuration tools, KDE 3.5.9 and available 4.0.1, some new default applications in KDE and GNOME, and the latest pre-release of OpenOffice.org 2.4. See here for download information. And URPMI got support for rpm5.
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RE[6]: great desktop experience but..
by sbergman27 on Sun 2nd Mar 2008 20:29
in reply to "RE[5]: great desktop experience but.."
Member since:2005-07-24
Thank you for the feedback. But Mandrake/Mandriva is not really on my radar anymore. Repeated poor experiences with distro QA and Mandrake Store, plus a general distaste for the current Mandriva management prevent Mandriva from appearing on my "Distros I care about" list, and likely will for a continued very long time.
Regarding the mixing of Debian and Ubuntu repos, the standard repos that come enabled in current a current Ubuntu release represent over 20,000 packages all by themselves.
Edited 2008-03-02 20:33 UTC
RE[7]: great desktop experience but..
by AdamW on Sun 2nd Mar 2008 22:50
in reply to "RE[6]: great desktop experience but.."
Member since:2005-07-06
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2005-07-24
But... there are some practical advantages that deb based distros have compared to rpm based ones.
Package availability for deb based distros is typically sterling. Debian and Ubuntu have something like 19000 - 20000+ packages available.
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Have you looked at packages available in the Mandriva repos? They are comparable to the Debian/Ubuntu repos. Also, isn't it considered bad to mix Debian repos with Ubuntu repos?
There have been plenty of times where a package I wanted to use was just an apt-get away on my deb based machines, but rather more difficult to locate for my rpm based ones. It used to be that certain out of repo proprietary packages came as rpm or tgz only. But the rise of Ubuntu pretty much put an end to that.
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you forgot that Mandriva is probably the only big rpm distro thas has used urpmi as a standard from the beginning. Fedora has something new almost every release and the less said about SuSE the better.
Also, apt *is* very noticeably faster. It's faster at processing the metadata, and it almost always has superior download speeds. I believe it can pull from multiple servers at once. YUM is also a bit clunky. It has more issues with database corruption, requiring an rpm --rebuilddb. I sometimes have to force kill it. And I sometimes have to fiddle with lock files.
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Again, please also look at urpmi. I hold it in high regard.
Edited 2008-03-02 20:23 UTC