Linked by David Adams on Tue 12th Jul 2005 15:41 UTC, submitted by Brett
Legal Hot on the heels of an AMD antitrust lawsuit against Intel and a recent ruling in Japan that found that Intel abused its monopoly power, European Comission officials and competition authorities from several European countries raided the offices of Intel and several computer manufacturers. These "inspections" were probably carried out under article 81 of the EU Treaty, which prohibits price fixing and other distortions of competition within the EU.
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I'm rooting for the EU and for AMD
by Drumhellar on Tue 12th Jul 2005 18:13 UTC
Drumhellar
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2005-07-12

Of course, as for Dell not using AMD chips...

While the Opterons may be every bit as reliable as Intel's chips, AMD hasn't built the reputation that Intel chips have.

I remember a certain video from Tom's Hardware when the Palomino cores first came out. While running Quake 3, the heatsink/fan were removed from a P4, P3, Athlon Thunderbird, and the (at the time) new Palomino core. The T-Bird started smoking, the Palomino burst in to flames, Windows crashed on the P3, and the P4 simply slowed to about 3fps in Quake. When the fan was replaced, the P4 returned to normal speed. I know the Opterons have much better thermal control than the Palomino, but is it capable of saving itself in such a drastic emergency? This I'm not so sure about.

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You do realize that movie is bullshit propaganda anyway? Fans do stop working at times, but how many times has it happened to you that the cooling block fell of?

Anyhow, athlons have had overheating protection for a loooong time now, and if you think a amd 64 runs hotter than a current intel, you are either seriously misinformed, or just plain trolling.

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Tyr. Member since:
2005-07-06

You do realize that movie is bullshit propaganda anyway? Fans do stop working at times, but how many times has it happened to you that the cooling block fell of?

I actually own an AthlonXP 1500+ which at one time had a faulty fan. If it suddenly stopped the system would grind to a halt between 5-25 seconds depending on what I was doing at the time. So the cooling block wouldn't have to fall off (like in the movie.)

Temperature protection worked like a charm though, still use the cpu today.

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Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

You do realize that movie is bullshit propaganda anyway? Fans do stop working at times, but how many times has it happened to you that the cooling block fell of?

Actually, it's happened to me once before while my system was running. The plastic tabs on the socket of yesteryear were lousy. The heatsink's bracket broke them right off. Of course, that was a P200 MMX (coincedentally, the last Intel chip i've owned). I've had it happen a couple of times while installing a heatsink, also.

Anyhow, athlons have had overheating protection for a loooong time now, and if you think a amd 64 runs hotter than a current intel, you are either seriously misinformed, or just plain trolling.

Yes, I am well aware that my A64 runs cooler than my buddy's P4. A fan failure in a 1U case is still bad.
I know the P4 will stay running (but slow), and I hope the A64 will, too. I just don't know, though.

The point was, Intel's had some nice reliability features for quite a time longer than AMD. When the Athlons were coming out, I heard some IT guys belittle AMD's chips because of problems they had with the K5.

As for Apple using AMD, I don't see that happening. Intel makes the processors and supporting chipsets. AMD makes theirs to get the platform started, but rely on the likes of nVidia and Via to keep that part of the platform modern.

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