Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Mar 2008 21:26 UTC, submitted by ohxten
Opera Software "Since the test was officially announced recently, our core developers have been hard at work fixing bugs and adding the missing standards support. Today we reached a 100% pass rate for the first time! There are some remaining issues yet to be fixed, but we hope to have those sorted out shortly."
Thread beginning with comment 306787
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE
by Kroc on Wed 26th Mar 2008 21:56 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

Quick rundown:
* This is a literally "we coded this last night" result, it's not a public build
* 100% won't make it into Opera 9.5
* Safari nightlies are at 98%, there's also no idea of when a next version will ship - I would personally guestimate, ~June
* this was a triumph, I'm making a note here, huge success!
* But: what really matters is who wil ship first
* Microsoft could care less, Acid 2 is the new Acid 3 to them.

Reply Score: 11

RE
by J.R. on Wed 26th Mar 2008 22:08 in reply to "RE"
J.R. Member since:
2007-07-25

+1 for portal reference ;)

Reply Parent Score: 5

RE
by wirespot on Wed 26th Mar 2008 23:48 in reply to "RE"
wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

Why does it only matter who ships first? I don't see how a few months is going to make that much of a difference. I don't think we'll see Safari or Opera users going "oh, the other browser has 100% ACID3 compliance, I'm going to switch."

Reply Parent Score: 8

RE
by TechniCookie on Thu 27th Mar 2008 00:21 in reply to "RE"
TechniCookie Member since:
2005-11-09

Why does it only matter who ships first? I don't see how a few months is going to make that much of a difference.

Well, it is important to be first for both Opera and Safari. They aim for more customers and they get positive exposure in the media by being first. It is also about credibility. They can now claim that they follow standards better than Firefox. Personally I think it is great that it is getting so much attention since it puts more pressure on IE to comply with web standards.

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE
by umccullough on Thu 27th Mar 2008 01:00 in reply to "RE"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Why does it only matter who ships first? I don't see how a few months is going to make that much of a difference. I don't think we'll see Safari or Opera users going "oh, the other browser has 100% ACID3 compliance, I'm going to switch."


I fully agree.

It's clear that standards compliance isn't the measurement that defines popularity yet.

Firefox 2.x doesn't even pass the Acid 2 test yet, and it's not losing any popularity contests ;) It's "good enough" in most peoples minds - and that's what matters. Firefox has the added benefit of being open-source, which probably generates a lot more "selling power" to those who are "browser shopping".

IE on the other hand doesn't even seem to aspire to be competitive on standards compliance, nor does it have anything else going for it other than pure market share by default.

Opera and Safari are going to maybe make inroads among those who want to claim to have "the fastest browser" or "the most standards compliant browser" ... but I guess it remains to be seen if that translates into real tangible market share or not.

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE
by DeadFishMan on Thu 27th Mar 2008 02:46 in reply to "RE"
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

Why does it only matter who ships first? I don't see how a few months is going to make that much of a difference. I don't think we'll see Safari or Opera users going "oh, the other browser has 100% ACID3 compliance, I'm going to switch."


Right. Besides, Opera was the first browser to ship with tabs around version 3.6X if memory serves me right (although they were slightly different of what we see today on most web browsers, more like a MDI-style app I think) but that didn't stop the horde of clueless people giving credit to Mozilla for that.

And I have seen some people here on OSNews of all places suggest once or twice that Firefox came with that first and then Seamonkey and other browsers copied that "incredibly useful innovation", nonetheless... :|

Reply Parent Score: 5

RE
by Adurbe on Thu 27th Mar 2008 10:12 in reply to "RE"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

100% pass with 'remaining issues yet to be fixed'

Im not sure thats a 100% pass! Have you ever got 100% in an exam where some answers were not right?!?!?!

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE
by dagw on Thu 27th Mar 2008 11:00 in reply to "RE"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Im not sure thats a 100% pass! Have you ever got 100% in an exam where some answers were not right?!?!?!


You can get 100% on an exam without knowing everything the course was supposed to teach you though. You just have know the stuff the exam happens to ask. I'm guessing they uncovered bugs and issues connected to the ACID3 test but weren't directly tested by it.

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE
by CowMan on Sat 29th Mar 2008 19:36 in reply to "RE"
CowMan Member since:
2006-09-26

It passes 100% of the tests (100/100), but is not yet a pixel-for-pixel match for the ACID3 test (missing a space, I believe). Pixel-for-pixel matching, and smooth rendering, are two corrollaries of 100% compatibility.

Reply Parent Score: 1