Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 17th Apr 2008 21:53 UTC
Novell and Ximian Novell's Nat Friedman told InternetNews.com: "The basic concept here is that the standalone operating system is dead." Friedman is Novell's Chief Technology Officer. He added: "The days in which people buy operating systems on their own and then build a stack from there [...] will look like home-built automobiles in the future - people aren't going to do this anymore." This is not the first time some big company predicts the end of the traditional operating system.
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I don't
by historyb on Thu 17th Apr 2008 22:50 UTC
historyb
Member since:
2005-07-06

Think it is, as was said there has been a lot of this type of stuff said none lived up to it. I remember Gates saying we wouldn't need more than a certain amount of memory, 540k I think, and here we are with memory in the gigabytes.

RE: I don't
by aliquis on Thu 17th Apr 2008 22:57 in reply to "I don't"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

The limit they had was 640 kB. But yes. There are videoclips on youtube showing people firing up a mac classic, launching claris works, type some stuff, save it and turn of the machine (I think it included that part aswell), and then compared to a new machine, and the new machine are SLOWER. Sure the machine are like hundreds of times faster, but the software have become so much bloated that you don't get more stuff done anyway. And it will probably remain that way, coders like to add whatever fun stuff they can because the system allows it anyway. It's not like we NEED bouncing icons in the dock, or 3d effects when switching windows, but the hardware are there so someone will make use of it.

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RE[2]: I don't
by John.Gustafsson on Fri 18th Apr 2008 07:23 in reply to "RE: I don't"
John.Gustafsson Member since:
2005-08-08

Coders like to add? I see you haven't had the pleasure to work in a corporate setting:)

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RE[2]: I don't
by Doc Pain on Fri 18th Apr 2008 13:22 in reply to "RE: I don't"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

[...] and the new machine are SLOWER. Sure the machine are like hundreds of times faster, but the software have become so much bloated that you don't get more stuff done anyway.


hardware ressources
---------------------------------- = overall usage speed
application requirements

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And it will probably remain that way, coders like to add whatever fun stuff they can because the system allows it anyway. It's not like we NEED bouncing icons in the dock, or 3d effects when switching windows, but the hardware are there so someone will make use of it.


I think this tendency at least rectifies a niche market for users who don't want to upgrade their hardware day by day just to keep (!) the overall usage speed they are comfortable with.

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RE[2]: I don't
by Almafeta on Fri 18th Apr 2008 15:48 in reply to "RE: I don't"
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

There are videoclips on youtube showing people firing up a mac classic, launching claris works, type some stuff, save it and turn of the machine (I think it included that part aswell), and then compared to a new machine, and the new machine are SLOWER.


That, in part, is because ClarisWorks was very sweet.

I still have a SE/30 around to use it...

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RE: I don't
by Al2001 on Fri 18th Apr 2008 03:03 in reply to "I don't"
Al2001 Member since:
2005-07-06

You know nobody can ever provide proof that he said that. Futhermore he is recorded saying we will eventually need to move to a 64bit memory system long before this phrase was atributed to him.

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RE[2]: I don't
by historyb on Fri 18th Apr 2008 03:58 in reply to "RE: I don't"
historyb Member since:
2005-07-06

I've seen him say it in a video.

Edited 2008-04-18 04:00 UTC

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RE: I don't
by Lu-Tze on Fri 18th Apr 2008 04:20 in reply to "I don't"
Lu-Tze Member since:
2006-01-10

"The 640kb should be enough for anyone" quote is just an internet myth. He never actually said that. And in his defense, why would he say such a potentially unprofitable thing anyway. :-)

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RE[2]: I don't
by bogomipz on Fri 18th Apr 2008 18:07 in reply to "RE: I don't"
bogomipz Member since:
2005-07-11

Umm, maybe because that was the limit of the operating system he was selling, and he was not selling hardware?

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