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RE[4]: Another Ubuntu
by OMRebel on Thu 24th Apr 2008 21:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Another Ubuntu"
OMRebel
Member since:
2005-11-14

openSUSE (which is what we're talking about) is MUCH slower on the same hardware than Ubuntu is. That is a FACT.

As many businesses that I've worked in and seen that use linux, RHEL is the only version that they use. Until Novell does something with Yast (either get rid of it, or fix it), then Suse will continue to be trying to play catchup.

Besides, aren't we focusing on desktops and not servers?

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RE[5]: Another Ubuntu
by milles21 on Thu 24th Apr 2008 21:16 in reply to "RE[4]: Another Ubuntu"
milles21 Member since:
2006-11-08

That is where we obviously differ, I have seen atleast 10 companies personlly that have moved from RHEL to SLES 10,
also in 3 of the companies YAST was one of the reasons they chose to move.

YAST may at time be slow however from an administration perspective with junior admins it is functional.

Also I know we are talking Ubuntu and OpenSUSE but Zenworks and SLES are really a winning combo. I am not saying ubuntu is a bad distro I am saying from an innovation perspective I see more of the innovative development coming from the Opensuse community. That does not make ubuntu a bad distro they package really well but that was not what we were discussing.

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RE[5]: Another Ubuntu
by suser on Fri 25th Apr 2008 08:52 in reply to "RE[4]: Another Ubuntu"
suser Member since:
2005-08-04

openSUSE (which is what we're talking about) is MUCH slower on the same hardware than Ubuntu is. That is a FACT.


I disagree.
11.0 beta1 faster installation, faster package management and 64bit system done right.

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RE[5]: Another Ubuntu
by glimpze777 on Fri 25th Apr 2008 11:52 in reply to "RE[4]: Another Ubuntu"
glimpze777 Member since:
2008-04-25

Are you nuts? I did compare Ubuntu and opensuse on the same hardware but ubuntu crashed! Opensuse works as a charm! its way better that other distro lots of innovation! I'm a school systems administrator and YAST is the best!

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RE[6]: Another Ubuntu
by 6c1452 on Fri 25th Apr 2008 12:15 in reply to "RE[5]: Another Ubuntu"
6c1452 Member since:
2007-08-29

Are you sure you're not a student? I'm pretty sure there are rules about school system employees not abusing punctuation like that....

Just installed 8.04. It has its' quirks, but overall the experience has been great. Installed without whining, booted to the desktop. My biggest complaint so far is that gnome-terminal randomly crashes when editing the profile. Well, that and that the package servers are overloaded.

You know what though? What I really want to do is set up a machine just for trying things. There must be at least a dozen distros I want to try, and half of those are high-quality desktops. Life is good.

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RE[6]: Another Ubuntu
by Soulbender on Fri 25th Apr 2008 12:19 in reply to "RE[5]: Another Ubuntu"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Funny thing is, so did I. On the same hardware, HP dc5700, suse will crash and burn (unless you disable ACPI) while Ubuntu will just install and work like a charm.

Edited 2008-04-25 12:26 UTC

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RE[6]: Another Ubuntu
by polaris20 on Fri 25th Apr 2008 17:22 in reply to "RE[5]: Another Ubuntu"
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

Are you nuts? I did compare Ubuntu and opensuse on the same hardware but ubuntu crashed! Opensuse works as a charm! its way better that other distro lots of innovation! I'm a school systems administrator and YAST is the best!


What don't you try using less abrasive language, so as to be taken more seriously?

I've compared OpenSuSe on the following:

XW6600
XW8600
Thinkpad T61p
NW9440
DC5750
XW4400
DC7800
NX6125
Dell M60
NC6120

All of these machines ran Ubuntu faster and with more stability.

Yast (granted on GNOME, which is our standard WM) is dreadfully slow.

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RE[5]: Another Ubuntu
by segedunum on Fri 25th Apr 2008 14:07 in reply to "RE[4]: Another Ubuntu"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

openSUSE (which is what we're talking about) is MUCH slower on the same hardware than Ubuntu is. That is a FACT.

That is absolute tosh. The fact that you say stuff like this verbatim, and that you've been modded up, shows what we're dealing with - a bunch of people who really believe that Ubuntu is something that it isn't.

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