Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th Apr 2008 21:12 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems When Asus released its Eee PC, praise was almost universal. People loved the device's size, low price, and the fact it came with Linux appealed to many geeks. Consequently, the device sold rather well, and was a hit for Asus. However, the device had two major shortcomings: its small screen (7" 800x480), and its relatively short battery life. Asus took the critcism to heart, and came up with the Asus Eee PC 900, which has a 9" 1024x600 screen. So, what's the verdict?
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RE: Looks Nice
by Doc Pain on Fri 25th Apr 2008 23:57 UTC in reply to "Looks Nice"
Doc Pain
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2006-10-08

It looks nice, but [...]


Yes, it does, but I may tell you what I miss:

1. The device has a glidepad. It would be great to have an option to buy it with a trackpoint instead. Furthermore, I miss the middle mouse button which is sooo important if you want to run your UNIX / Linux GUI stuff in an adequate manner.

http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/rv/e/laptops/asus/eee_pc-901/story_2.jpg

2. Is a german keyboard layout available, too? Can the "Windows" keys be removed? :-)

http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/7344-IMG3341s.j...

It really seems to be a nice device, worth contributing to my development hardware, especially when visiting customers - a cool portable computer to demonstrate things, for diagnostics and for inputting source code that comes to your mind when you're not at home.

If I see it correctly, the device would be approx. 500 Euro in Germany (I didn't check its availability in fact) - still too much money for me. But I may continue dreaming.

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RE[2]: Looks Nice
by Luis on Sat 26th Apr 2008 02:57 in reply to "RE: Looks Nice"
Luis Member since:
2006-04-28

Furthermore, I miss the middle mouse button which is sooo important if you want to run your UNIX / Linux GUI stuff in an adequate manner.

Shouldn't pressing in the middle of both buttons (e.i. pressing both at the same time) do the middle button trick?

2. Is a german keyboard layout available, too?

Sure, the version they'll sell in Germany will have German keyboard layout, why wouldn't it?

If I see it correctly, the device would be approx. 500 Euro in Germany

The announced price was 400 Euro. We'll see once it's available if demand doesn't push the price up.

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RE[3]: Looks Nice
by Doc Pain on Sat 26th Apr 2008 13:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Looks Nice"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

Shouldn't pressing in the middle of both buttons (e.i. pressing both at the same time) do the middle button trick?


Yes and no. Pressing buttons 1 + 2 does a middle mouse click, which usually outputs the edit buffer at the current cursor position. Pressing the physical middle mouse button enables the mouse wheel function - you move the mouse in Y direction and you get a much smoother mouse wheel. Having both functionalities on buttons 1 + 2 at the same time isn't very attractive. Just imagine a double middle mouse button click.

The announced price was 400 Euro. We'll see once it's available if demand doesn't push the price up.


I'm a programmer. We usually estimate values bigger than neccessary, so we won't run into trouble later. Regarding prices, they seem to be much cheaper than we feared. :-)

I'd really like to get such a little helper, but still, 400 Euro is much money here in Germany. And I don't get much money at my current job so it's still "too expensive" - at least for me.

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RE[2]: Looks Nice
by zima on Sat 26th Apr 2008 04:18 in reply to "RE: Looks Nice"
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2005-07-06

I'm also really waiting for such device with a Trackpoint...yes, touchpad vs. trackpoint comes down to personal preference, but:
a) even when ones preference is a touchpad, it's harder to use the smaller it gets...which brings us to point
b) it's perfectly suited for such size-constrained machines

Here's hoping Lenovo will do something about it...

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RE[3]: Looks Nice
by StephenBeDoper on Sat 26th Apr 2008 20:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Looks Nice"
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2005-07-06

Here's hoping Lenovo will do something about it...


For the forseeable future, you'd probably be best off to pick up a refurb. x31 or x40.

Most of the big laptop makers are stubbornly refusing to sell any laptops below a certain price point (and, by extension, profit margin). It seems to be the Apple business model, where products aren't discontinued when they become technically-obsolete - instead, products are discontinued once the profit margin falls to a certain level.

It seems to be largely a holding-action, to try to prevent laptop computers from becoming as "commoditized" as desktop PCs. I suspect it's going to be ultimately futile - there's obviously demand for low-cost laptops. And with companies like Asus stepping up to fill that demand, that's going to eventually/hopefully to force Dell, Acer, HP, Lenovo, et al.

It was starting to feel as the big-name laptop makers were engaging in round-about/accidental price fixing - by way of an unwillingness to compete on price when it comes to laptops (out of fear of jeopardizing the price premium that laptops typically command).

IMO, that's the best thing about the Eee PC: its existence will (hopefully) shake off some of the stagnation that has become the status-quo with laptops.

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RE[2]: Looks Nice
by h3rman on Sat 26th Apr 2008 06:59 in reply to "RE: Looks Nice"
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2006-08-09

"It looks nice, but [...]


Yes, it does, but I may tell you what I miss:

1. The device has a glidepad. It would be great to have an option to buy it with a trackpoint instead. Furthermore, I miss the middle mouse button which is sooo important if you want to run your UNIX / Linux GUI stuff in an adequate manner.

http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/rv/e/laptops/asus/eee_pc-901/story_2.jpg
"

Seriously, ever since I've been using a Thinkpad (bit worn-out X40), I cannot imagine anyone would want to put up with a laptop without a trackpoint-style pointing device. ;)

But that may also be because the Thinkpads have something else going for it, i.e. the best three "mouse" buttons ever designed on laptops. No to mention the keyboard that doesn't flex like most other crap laptop keyboards do.
If they'd put that on the Eee, that would be smart.

I know, it takes most people at least five minutes to get used to a trackpoint, that's too much for most of use. ;)

If I see it correctly, the device would be approx. 500 Euro in Germany (I didn't check its availability in fact) - still too much money for me. But I may continue dreaming.


In the Hague there's a store that's going to sell it for 400 (the Linux version, Dutch warranty).
I'm thinking of getting my brother one, or the MSI wind, depending on which one of them is the first to be available with a *really* efficient chip. IMHO the goal that any tiny laptop makes should have is 24 hour battery life plus the ability to charge the battery manually if necessary (at the gym, for instance). ;)

I mean, say you're on a train to the south of France and you want to work for hours, then most laptops are still a joke when it comes to battery life.
It can be done, and it will be done, eventually.

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RE[3]: Looks Nice
by Moochman on Sun 27th Apr 2008 08:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Looks Nice"
Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

Forget the trackpoint. What I want is a touchscreen (with stylus input). Like the Psion netBook. Now that was a pleasure to use!

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RE[2]: Looks Nice
by B12 Simon on Wed 30th Apr 2008 16:50 in reply to "RE: Looks Nice"
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2006-11-08

Can the "Windows" keys be removed? :-)


If you don't mind gaps in your keyboard ;o)

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