Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 10th May 2008 21:49 UTC, submitted by Thorsten Wilms
Graphics, User Interfaces As you may remember from our series on common usability terms, I have a lot of interest in graphical user interface concepts. In addition, I applaud anyone trying to improve existing concepts, people that try to think beyond set conventions to come up with an improved version of that concept, or a new concept altogether. Thorsten Wilms took on the well-established concept of the scrollbar, and came up with a few interesting tweaks.
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RE[3]: Scrollbars?
by s_groening on Sun 11th May 2008 11:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Scrollbars?"
s_groening
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2005-12-13

the whole idea behind the two finger gesture as opposed to the scroll pad to the right of your track pad is that you're not limited to a small area, which is generally what makes scroll bars somewhat unhandy, since you'll have to move the cursor to a specific area of the screen.

This is eliminated by the addition of the scroll wheel and in Apple's case the two finger gesture.

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RE[4]: Scrollbars?
by miscz on Sun 11th May 2008 11:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Scrollbars?"
miscz Member since:
2005-07-17

I don't think you understand how scrolling works on most touchpads. You move your finger along the right physical border up and down and it's exactly like a scroll wheel, just flat and without tactile feedback.

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To make it clearer, here's a demo of stand-alone, probably Synaptics based (like in most notebooks, including Apple ones) touchpad and some common possible gestures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF9sXAMLBW0

Edited 2008-05-11 11:23 UTC

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RE[4]: Scrollbars?
by deathshadow on Sun 11th May 2008 14:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Scrollbars?"
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

This is eliminated by the addition of the scroll wheel and in Apple's case the two finger gesture.

Or on any PC since Windows 2.0 that has a mouse with THREE buttons (even my old Mouse Systems optical on one of the metallic pads with the blue and red lines going each way and the 25 pin Serial connector had three buttons!) - or ***SHOCK*** pushing down on the scroll wheel. You get this nice little arrow cursor that lets you scroll in any direction - without even having to move sideways to the scrollbar.

That's what I don't get - this isn't innovative, it's a step behind two decades ago. (though it would be nice if middle button scrolling was persistant to the window element that had the focus if scrollable and not just the window itself)

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