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Benchmarks The first webpage was served off a NeXTcube at CERN, Switzerland, developed by Tim Berners-Lee. He also wrote the first web browser, confusingly named WorldWideWeb - the world of web browsers has come a long way since then, more or less turning into a platform of their own. This puts increasing pressure on web browsers to be really really good pieces of software, and as such, ZDnet has a 7-page comparison of the world's major web browsers, comparing Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, and Safari.
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opera 9.50 -> ff3
by kamil_chatrnuch on Sun 1st Jun 2008 00:29 UTC
kamil_chatrnuch
Member since:
2005-07-07

ok, i'm an opera user starting from the v6 days. because of some special circumstances i've now used firefox v3 (currently rc1) for almost 3-4 weeks. here're my impressions [all *very* subjective to my browsing habbits]:

pro:
- google pages are all supported and have a 'better', 'more rich-client like' feel to them.
- searching in the address bar is faster then with opera [opera gets 'stuck' sometimes]
- typing 2+ terms into the address bar bring's you often to the first google hit page

contra:
- the back button reloads the page. this is bad, because if i was in the middle of a (vertically) long page, followed a link, then tried going back it kicks me back at the begin of the page [ehm, or not (5%)]. also, i loose the filled-out forms when going back
- switching between tabs is just plain stupid [ctrl+tab]. i cycles through all the pages, instead of switching to the last-used one [plugin doesn't work with ff3]
- open closed tabs. there's undo function, which requires right-click on some of the tabs to undo the last tab. so if you want to open the 3rd closed tab, i have to open the 2nd and 1st too [plugin doesn't work with ff3]
- when opening more then 12 tabs [on my display], the tabs 'slide' away. this just feels wrong...
- bookmarks. i still don't know how to display all of them [not that i've giving it much though, but still...]
- no mouse gestures [plugin doesn't work with ff3]
- can't choose opening tabs in background/foreground in the right-click menu

this should not be a flame, so pls. add a virtual "for me" to every of the points.

these would be probably the biggest problems (for me). if you know solutions to them, i'm glad to hear them.

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RE: opera 9.50 -> ff3
by mmebane on Sun 1st Jun 2008 01:15 in reply to "opera 9.50 -> ff3"
mmebane Member since:
2005-07-06

Tab Mix Plus will let you change pretty much everything you want about tab behavior, although the FF3-supporting version is still in beta. If you want to try it, you can get it from here:
http://tmp.garyr.net/dev-builds/

You can display all bookmarks with Bookmarks menu -> Organize Bookmarks. It is improved from FF2, but I think it still needs a little more work.

And you can get gestures with FireGestures:
http://www.xuldev.org/firegestures/


Still doesn't fix the back-button-reloads thing, though.

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RE[2]: opera 9.50 -> ff3
by Moochman on Sun 1st Jun 2008 08:34 in reply to "RE: opera 9.50 -> ff3"
Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

Another possibility for viewing all your bookmarks which might be even nicer for an Opera user is to hunt down and create a shortcut to your "bookmarks.html" file in your user profile (under Windows XP with hidden files turned on under C:\Documents and Settins\_your_user_name\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\_some_random_letters&numbers\, under Mac OS X under /_your_user_name/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/_some_random_letters&numbers/). Then you can view your bookmarks as a nice HTML list of links (albeit without being able to edit them).

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RE: opera 9.50 -> ff3
by ba1l on Sun 1st Jun 2008 13:35 in reply to "opera 9.50 -> ff3"
ba1l Member since:
2007-09-08

The back button does not reload the page. Firefox has had the same page caching system as Opera since Firefox 2. Hitting the back button should be instant, and return the page to exactly the state it was in. Admittedly, I never use the back button, since I open just about every link in a new tab...

I hate that tab behaviour in Opera.

If you go to History, Recently Closed Tabs (in Firefox 3), you can open whichever one you want, in whatever order. I don't know what plugin you're talking about - it's built right into Firefox 3.

The sliding thing is a bit weird, I will admit.

You can view all bookmarks from the bookmark manager.

I never noticed the lack of mouse gestures, since I have system level gestures set up for all browsers. Not just limited to browsers either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_gesture#Windows

Use the keyboard if you want to open tabs in the foreground. Ctrl+click opens a new tab in the background, and ctrl+shift+click opens a new tab in the foreground.

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